Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Actually, if you really knew anything at all about, say, the sexual practices, you would know that a preliminary period of brahmacharya is required in order to gain control over one's own sexual energy. So if anyone thinks that using sexual ritual is a excuse to have MORE sex than ever, they are wrong. Also, if you are doing the practices properly, one's desire for physical sex should DECREASE. If it increases, the energy is being diverted into the lower chakras, and one is liable to develop insatiable appetites for everything BUT God. This is why Ramakrishna warned his devotees away from the "heroic" path, even though he himself had attained this way; it is all too easy to delude oneself about the depth of one's devotion, until confronted with temptation. It is also dangerous to raise one's kundalini up and then have it go crashing back down as a result of a lack of self-control; you can "blow out" your nervous system. --- omprem <omprem wrote: > > "Good question. That is what we all should do, Ask > ourselves : > What is the purpose of our sadhana. What do we hope > to > achieve from all these?" > > > It seems that the usual group of people here who > promote and > justify the use of alcohol, drugs, rajasic/tamasic > foods, sex, and > other worldly distractions are claiming a scriptural > justification for > indulging in those practices. Because they are > unable to give > those practices and their enthrallment with the > things of Maya, > they employ psuedo-scriptural/religious reasons for > doing so. ############################################# Frankly, as a result of my practice, I find I have complete control over my sexual desires, and would be perfectly happy doing without it for the rest of my days. I am practically a sannyasini;I do not drink, watch TV, smoke cigarettes, go out and "party", or nearly all of the things that most people do to amuse themselves. I would rather meditate than do just about anything else. So if you were aiming this remark at me, you have missed by a mile. ########################################### > This has the positive effect of indulging in these > practices less > and less. Using or inventing scripture/religious > practice in these > circumstances is like using a nicotine patch to quit > smoking. > > These are litte albeit positive steps. By suggesting > abstenence, I > am inviting you take big steps and leave those > addictions and > their corrupting influence behind for good. ################################################ The Master Vimalananda says that "If you have to think about renouncing, you are not ready to do so. When you are ready, you will find the bad habits just fading away on their own." This is true. The trouble is, is that other habits disappear as well, like the desire to eat. I have to be careful not to forget to eat! Lilith M. > Om Namah Sivaya > > Omprem > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 --- Lili Masamura <sephirah5 wrote: > ...If it [sexual desire] increases, the > energy is being diverted into the lower chakras, and > one is liable to develop insatiable appetites for > everything BUT God. This is why Ramakrishna warned > his > devotees away from the "heroic" path, even though he > himself had attained this way; it is all too easy to > delude oneself about the depth of one's devotion, > until confronted with temptation. Was Ramakrishna considered a practitioner of Virya marga? He perpetually describes his relationship with Kali Devi as her devoted son, not her lover. And although he was married to Sharada Devi, he had taken vows of brahmacharya and apparently never consummated the marriage. -- Len/ Kalipadma Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 >> "Good question. That is what we all should do, Ask ourselves : What is the purpose of our sadhana.<< Thanks, yes, that's a very good question... Love & Light, Lex "The purpose of Sadhana is to prevent the mind from taking recourse to its dangerous aberrations and from getting for the individual the bitter fruit of metempsychosis." The Realisation of the Absolute by Swami Krishnananda http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/realis/realis_8a.html "That is the sadhana. That is the great abhyasa—to be rooted in the Divine, to be guided by the Divine, to recognise the reality of the Divine and the Divine alone, and to give secondary place to all that is other than the Divine." SPECIAL INSIGHTS INTO SADHANA No. 3 By SRI SWAMI CHIDANANDA http://www.dlshq.org/download/insight_sadhana3.htm#_VPID_4 "Ultimately it will take you to supreme blessedness, crown your life with the glorious attainment of peace, bliss, fearlessness and freedom. That is the purpose, that is the objective of sadhana. Therefore, be a sincere, practical sadhaka. Improve day by day. Move towards perfection...May the divine grace of God grant you steady, unhampered progress and grant you fulfilment, all success, in your sadhana!" Sri Swami Chidananda http://www.dlshq.org/discourse/nov2001.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Interesting quote: "That is the sadhana ... to recognise the reality of the Divine and the Divine alone, and to give secondary place to all that is other than the Divine." So what is "other than the Divine"? DB , "Alexis" <AFMuller@a...> wrote: > > > >> "Good question. That is what we all should do, Ask > ourselves : What is the purpose of our sadhana.<< > > Thanks, yes, that's a very good question... > Love & Light, Lex > > "The purpose of Sadhana is to prevent the mind from taking recourse > to its dangerous aberrations and from getting for the individual the > bitter fruit of metempsychosis." > The Realisation of the Absolute by Swami Krishnananda > http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/realis/realis_8a.html > > "That is the sadhana. That is the great abhyasa—to be rooted in the > Divine, to be guided by the Divine, to recognise the reality of the > Divine and the Divine alone, and to give secondary place to all that > is other than the Divine." > SPECIAL INSIGHTS INTO SADHANA No. 3 By SRI SWAMI CHIDANANDA > http://www.dlshq.org/download/insight_sadhana3.htm#_VPID_4 > > "Ultimately it will take you to supreme blessedness, crown your life > with the glorious attainment of peace, bliss, fearlessness and > freedom. That is the purpose, that is the objective of sadhana. > Therefore, be a sincere, practical sadhaka. Improve day by day. > Move towards perfection...May the divine grace of God grant you > steady, unhampered progress and grant you fulfilment, all success, in > your sadhana!" > Sri Swami Chidananda > http://www.dlshq.org/discourse/nov2001.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 The idea that "all is divine "is an idea that must be REALIZED as a concrete fact in one's awareness and not just a facile idea batted about in discussion to complicate the topic or to win brownie points for cleverness and profundity. Until this level of realization is obtained, one can assume that all things that do not lead to a contemplation of the Eternal are "not Divine". If I read a book, have a personal interaction, watch a movie or program, and it does not cause a contemplative state to arise in my mind, one can assume that this thing was "not Divine", but a manifestation of illusion or a device to suspend the "thinking facility". In short, what you have just received is devoid of any spiritual nutriment whatever; junk food instead of a home cooked meal. Of course, when you get real real good at it, one ultimately finds that EVERYTHING one encounters can provide one with nutrition for the Spirit. And THAT is when you can truly claim to have "realized"! Lilith M. --- Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: > > Interesting quote: > > "That is the sadhana ... to recognise the reality of > the Divine and > the Divine alone, and to give secondary place to all > that is other > than the Divine." > > So what is "other than the Divine"? > > DB > > > > , "Alexis" > <AFMuller@a...> > wrote: > > > > > > >> "Good question. That is what we all should do, > Ask > > ourselves : What is the purpose of our sadhana.<< > > > > Thanks, yes, that's a very good question... > > Love & Light, Lex > > > > "The purpose of Sadhana is to prevent the mind > from taking > recourse > > to its dangerous aberrations and from getting for > the individual > the > > bitter fruit of metempsychosis." > > The Realisation of the Absolute by Swami > Krishnananda > > > http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/realis/realis_8a.html > > > > "That is the sadhana. That is the great abhyasa—to > be rooted in > the > > Divine, to be guided by the Divine, to recognise > the reality of > the > > Divine and the Divine alone, and to give secondary > place to all > that > > is other than the Divine." > > SPECIAL INSIGHTS INTO SADHANA No. 3 By SRI > SWAMI CHIDANANDA > > > http://www.dlshq.org/download/insight_sadhana3.htm#_VPID_4 > > > > "Ultimately it will take you to supreme > blessedness, crown your > life > > with the glorious attainment of peace, bliss, > fearlessness and > > freedom. That is the purpose, that is the > objective of sadhana. > > Therefore, be a sincere, practical sadhaka. > Improve day by day. > > Move towards perfection...May the divine grace of > God grant you > > steady, unhampered progress and grant you > fulfilment, all success, > in > > your sadhana!" > > Sri Swami Chidananda > > http://www.dlshq.org/discourse/nov2001.htm > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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