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Does anyone know, how and where this distinction appeared?

As i remember i never met these two terms in Tantras themselves, but

only in some literature "about".

The basis of this division of Kaula-mata might have been the reform of

by Matsyendranatha, who due to that reform is known as the current

yuga-natha. Then, those kaulas who followed him became "uttara",

"those who came after", while those who didn't accept his revelation

stayed as they were and came to be named "purva". However, i never

heard of factual existence of Purva school of Kaula.

Otherwise, this division may be related to respective amnayas - but

this seem to me improbable.

Maybe smbody can share his thoughts...

 

Regards,

A.

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Never heard of "purva-kaula"; Purva-Mimamsa and Uttara Mimamsa exist.

Uttara-kaula(heterodox, vama) and dakshina-kaula also exist.

Matsyendranatha is associated with the uttara-kaula school, though I

dont think it is for the reason you mentioned.

 

-yogaman

 

, "Arjuna Taradasa"

<bhagatirtha@m...> wrote:

>

> 93

>

> Does anyone know, how and where this distinction appeared?

> As i remember i never met these two terms in Tantras themselves,

but

> only in some literature "about".

> The basis of this division of Kaula-mata might have been the reform

of

> by Matsyendranatha, who due to that reform is known as the current

> yuga-natha. Then, those kaulas who followed him became "uttara",

> "those who came after", while those who didn't accept his

revelation

> stayed as they were and came to be named "purva". However, i never

> heard of factual existence of Purva school of Kaula.

> Otherwise, this division may be related to respective amnayas - but

> this seem to me improbable.

> Maybe smbody can share his thoughts...

>

> Regards,

> A.

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93,

 

, "Sarabhanga Giri" 93.

> It is my understanding that:

> Purva is the original eastern right-hand transmission; and

> Uttara is the succeeding northern left-hand transmission.

 

This explanation seem to be obvious from the names. However, IMO it

doesn't meet the facts. We find right hand transmission mostly in

South, and there tradition is for the fact more recent. Perhaps all

south indian traditions have their base in nothern ones (we may take

Shrividya, Shaivasiddhanta, Lingayata etc). So "purva" in the sense of

"previous" must be left hand - in some form. Then, if we see eastern

traditions, they again come to be rather left-handed (in Orissa, Assam

etc).

Of course, Purva and Uttara must relate to the previous and succeeding

traditions. Geographic correspondence is IMO unsure. Maybe, Uttara-

kaula is connected to Uttaramnaya current of Agamic Revelation...

 

Regards,

A.

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Namaste Arjuna,

 

> > Purva is the original eastern right-hand transmission; and

> > Uttara is the succeeding northern left-hand transmission.

 

Purva-Kaula worships the Devi as wife and mother, and in this respect

it is right.

 

Uttara-Kaula worships the Devi as a virgin, and in this respect it

may be left.

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