Digest Number 1348

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone, I would love to participate in this discussion of ahimsa and the

gita. Not that I have much to contribute, for I am not a wise person, but has

anybody noticed that one of the pandava brothers was the son of Dharma itself

and that Dharma was very pleased with him. Is there the possibility that at one

time or another, we all are forced to fight the good fight in order for the

higher ideals to prevail, or should we let the criminals come and step all over

us as they see fit? Please give your opinion in this matter.

 

How does ahimsa apply within the context of a lawsuit, of false accusations, of

injustice, of immorality, and so on. It seems to me that the Gita is not

exactly a treatise on ahimsa, but rather ahimsa is the effect of two forces that

collide against one another, good versus evil. As the two come into balance,

then we experience the peace that we so seek. In the final analizis, the gita

is a poem that relates the inner battle that every human being will have to

confront in their path to enlightenment. wheather we practice ahimsa or not, we

cannot escape violence for it is everywhere. Non-violence will only change when

each one of us makes it a mission to totally erradicate it out of our minds and

hearts. We all know that the Dalai Lama does not have a drop of violence in

him, yet even him is called to step forward and fight the good fight agaist the

repressive goverment of China. What do you all think?

 

Interested in finding out out, nelson

[Guest guest]

I guess the two forces can be any two forces, not just good and evil.

For one thing, we project "good" and "evil" quite often upon things

that are neither, or at least not so cut and dried. I hope you did

not come in too late for this discussion. Others may have tired of

it. I am learning more and more that it is possible to resolve so

very many things within rather than by taking a stand with others.

That stand can be taken within, and that changes behavior outwardly --

it may mean walking away from people or situations. I'm not talking

about defending one's country at the moment, just oneself. I think

the law is, in its best sense, a helpful tool and guide for humanity

in difficult situations. I also do not consider civil disobedience

to be violence. I think it is in accord with ahimsa.

 

, Nelson Majano

<azulejo6682> wrote:

> Hi everyone, I would love to participate in this discussion of

ahimsa and the gita. Not that I have much to contribute, for I am

not a wise person, but has anybody noticed that one of the pandava

brothers was the son of Dharma itself and that Dharma was very

pleased with him. Is there the possibility that at one time or

another, we all are forced to fight the good fight in order for the

higher ideals to prevail, or should we let the criminals come and

step all over us as they see fit? Please give your opinion in this

matter.

>

> How does ahimsa apply within the context of a lawsuit, of false

accusations, of injustice, of immorality, and so on. It seems to me

that the Gita is not exactly a treatise on ahimsa, but rather ahimsa

is the effect of two forces that collide against one another, good

versus evil. As the two come into balance, then we experience the

peace that we so seek. In the final analizis, the gita is a poem

that relates the inner battle that every human being will have to

confront in their path to enlightenment. wheather we practice ahimsa

or not, we cannot escape violence for it is everywhere. Non-violence

will only change when each one of us makes it a mission to totally

erradicate it out of our minds and hearts. We all know that the

Dalai Lama does not have a drop of violence in him, yet even him is

called to step forward and fight the good fight agaist the repressive

goverment of China. What do you all think?

>

> Interested in finding out out, nelson