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(giggle)

So, Mary Ann, the Bible is for you a Chamara Veda?

(That would be Sanskrit for "fly-whisk text.")

 

"Jesus loves me, this I know,

'cause the Bible tells me so.

If that's not enough for you,

wave it and the flies go 'shoo'."

 

Get an edition with large pages!

 

-- Len/ Kalipadma

 

 

--- Mary Ann <buttercookie61 wrote:

> Well, it depends. Was it really hot out? Were they

> fanning the

> person? Were they waving away flies? The Bible can

> be good for

> some practical things, too :-P

>

> ,

> swastik108... writes:

>

> > ...if you really loved humanity and wanted to help

> people why must you feed them

> > with one hand and wave the bible at them with the

> other, it is just a lowly strategy.

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi kalipadma:

 

I was thinking that it could be fun to create contents for the

Chamara Veda here at Shakti Sadhana from our own homespun wisdom.

Possibly the Rogers message you posted should be in there. It was so

funny! And Len, maybe you could earn some bucks going on the guru

comedian circuit tour -- creating such a tour! "A funny thing

happened to me on the way to see Amma..."

 

 

, Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108> wrote:

>

> (giggle)

> So, Mary Ann, the Bible is for you a Chamara Veda?

> (That would be Sanskrit for "fly-whisk text.")

>

> "Jesus loves me, this I know,

> 'cause the Bible tells me so.

> If that's not enough for you,

> wave it and the flies go 'shoo'."

>

> Get an edition with large pages!

>

> -- Len/ Kalipadma

>

>

> --- Mary Ann <buttercookie61> wrote:

>

> > Well, it depends. Was it really hot out? Were they

> > fanning the

> > person? Were they waving away flies? The Bible can

> > be good for

> > some practical things, too :-P

> >

> > ,

> > swastik108... writes:

> >

> > > ...if you really loved humanity and wanted to help

> > people why must you feed them

> > > with one hand and wave the bible at them with the

> > other, it is just a lowly strategy.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I would also add a book called the Chimera Veda, or maybe have the

Chamara Veda be known by both names, because "Chamara" made me think

of the word "chimera" which means, according to the dictionary I

have: "1) Greek myth - a firebreathing monster with a goat's head, a

lion's body and a serpent's tail killed by Bellerophon; 2) Archaic -

a grotesque monster (1634); 3) Figurative - a mere wild fancy, an

unfounded conception (the ordinary modern use, from 1587).

 

, "Mary Ann"

<buttercookie61> wrote:

> Hi kalipadma:

>

> I was thinking that it could be fun to create contents for the

> Chamara Veda here at Shakti Sadhana from our own homespun wisdom.

> Possibly the Rogers message you posted should be in there. It was

so

> funny! And Len, maybe you could earn some bucks going on the guru

> comedian circuit tour -- creating such a tour! "A funny thing

> happened to me on the way to see Amma..."

>

>

> , Len Rosenberg

> <kalipadma108> wrote:

> >

> > (giggle)

> > So, Mary Ann, the Bible is for you a Chamara Veda?

> > (That would be Sanskrit for "fly-whisk text.")

> >

> > "Jesus loves me, this I know,

> > 'cause the Bible tells me so.

> > If that's not enough for you,

> > wave it and the flies go 'shoo'."

> >

> > Get an edition with large pages!

> >

> > -- Len/ Kalipadma

> >

> >

> > --- Mary Ann <buttercookie61> wrote:

> >

> > > Well, it depends. Was it really hot out? Were they

> > > fanning the

> > > person? Were they waving away flies? The Bible can

> > > be good for

> > > some practical things, too :-P

> > >

> > > ,

> > > swastik108... writes:

> > >

> > > > ...if you really loved humanity and wanted to help

> > > people why must you feed them

> > > > with one hand and wave the bible at them with the

> > > other, it is just a lowly strategy.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Some funny gems to be included in the Chimera Veda:

 

Supernatural Power, Buddhist and Hindu

(Chapter 17 of "Discriminations Between Buddhist and Hindu Tantras")

Yogi C. M. Chen

 

"The root of sorrow is ignorance and the root of ignorance is the

inner self. The Tantric Hindu, holding tightly to the higher self,

limits his wisdom and power while the Buddhist, being free of even

this, attains unlimited wisdom and power.

 

Enough of theory. Let us look at some actual comparisons. We can

begin with the scriptures. In Hinduism, in the book Mysterious

Kundalini by Vasant G. Rele, on page 68, eight Ashta siddhis are

written of:

 

1) "Anima--A yogi concentrating, meditating and fixing his attention

on this quality of the soul during forced exhalation, draws together

his entire energy to a point which is then made to penetrate into all

bodies so as to make them vibrate according to the will of the Yogi."

 

But he cannot again draw his energy from this little point into the

voidness nature which is the final truth of Buddhism. He does not

believe in that.

 

4) "Garima--A yogi increases specific gravity of the body thus making

it as heavy as a mountain by swallowing large draughts of air and

compressing them in the tissues of the body."

 

The quantities of air swallowed cannot compare with that of the

tantric Buddhist.

 

5) "Prapti--When in Samadhi the yogi acquires the power of predicting

future events, of understanding unknown languages, of curing disease

and of divining the unexpressed thoughts of others."

 

The time of the future is limited by the kapla of Brahma's creation

and destruction, but a Buddhist is free from it.

 

7) "Vasitva--It is the power of taming living creatures and bringing

them under control."

 

This occurs in Tantric Buddhism also. Even in Ch'an there are

disciples who were tigers

 

Once Buddha knew by his parocitta-jnana (ability to know the thoughts

of all other minds) that the perverse view (Mithya) had arisen in

Brahma's mind that all is permanent. Buddha flew to Brahma's heaven

and after explaining that everything is impermanent, converted

Brahma.

I don't know what Tantric Hindus of today think of this story. Would

they have more power than Brahma? Your Lord Brahma has already been

converted, so what are you waiting for now?

 

My good readers, I must beg your pardon. It is not that I really

wanted to write such a long chapter on supernatural powers, but only

that I know you are so interested.

Buddha's powers were so many that even those magic verses of

his "Retractable Penis Sutra" are greater than those found in the Rig-

Veda. Since I cannot introduce this sutra here in its entirety, I

cannot help but stop here. "

 

 

, "Mary Ann"

<buttercookie61> wrote:

> I would also add a book called the Chimera Veda, or maybe have the

> Chamara Veda be known by both names, because "Chamara" made me

think

> of the word "chimera" which means, according to the dictionary I

> have: "1) Greek myth - a firebreathing monster with a goat's head,

a

> lion's body and a serpent's tail killed by Bellerophon; 2) Archaic -

> a grotesque monster (1634); 3) Figurative - a mere wild fancy, an

> unfounded conception (the ordinary modern use, from 1587).

>

> , "Mary Ann"

> <buttercookie61> wrote:

> > Hi kalipadma:

> >

> > I was thinking that it could be fun to create contents for the

> > Chamara Veda here at Shakti Sadhana from our own homespun wisdom.

> > Possibly the Rogers message you posted should be in there. It was

> so

> > funny! And Len, maybe you could earn some bucks going on the guru

> > comedian circuit tour -- creating such a tour! "A funny thing

> > happened to me on the way to see Amma..."

> >

> >

> > , Len Rosenberg

> > <kalipadma108> wrote:

> > >

> > > (giggle)

> > > So, Mary Ann, the Bible is for you a Chamara Veda?

> > > (That would be Sanskrit for "fly-whisk text.")

> > >

> > > "Jesus loves me, this I know,

> > > 'cause the Bible tells me so.

> > > If that's not enough for you,

> > > wave it and the flies go 'shoo'."

> > >

> > > Get an edition with large pages!

> > >

> > > -- Len/ Kalipadma

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Mary Ann <buttercookie61> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Well, it depends. Was it really hot out? Were they

> > > > fanning the

> > > > person? Were they waving away flies? The Bible can

> > > > be good for

> > > > some practical things, too :-P

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > > swastik108... writes:

> > > >

> > > > > ...if you really loved humanity and wanted to help

> > > > people why must you feed them

> > > > > with one hand and wave the bible at them with the

> > > > other, it is just a lowly strategy.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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