Guest guest Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 To realise God an aspirant must have ; Patience, Perseverance, Purity of body and mind, Intense desire or yearning, the aggregate of six attributes, namely, Shama( tranquility of mind ), Dama(restraint of the senses), Upaparati (giving up of attachment to objects), Titiksha ( remaining unaffected amidst all kinds of afflictions ), Shraddha ( faith in the words of the spiritual teacher and the scriptures ), Samadhana ( concentration of mind on the chosen ideal of God). From Towards the Supreme Goal - Swami Virajananda (Ramakrishna Mission) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 devishakti wrote: "To realise God an aspirant must have ; Patience, Perseverance, Purity of body and mind, Intense desire or yearning, the aggregate of six attributes, namely, Shama( tranquility of mind ), Dama(restraint of the senses), Upaparati (giving up of attachment to objects), Titiksha ( remaining unaffected amidst all kinds of afflictions ), Shraddha ( faith in the words of the spiritual teacher and the scriptures ), Samadhana ( concentration of mind on the chosen ideal of God)." Yeah, and when you have realized God(ess), have become a better human being, dressed yourself in a true humanity, got emphaty, creativity, vulcanic energy, then it's time to let the masculine dynamic force stream out in the world reshaping it to a better place to live! Not only for the humans but for the animals, the plants, the nature - yes, the whole of Mother Earth!! It is the religon of Life and the reverence of it we shall adopt if we will be the true warriors of the Great Mother! That is her message to me which she continue to vibrate my whole soul with from morning to night - day after day! You think you in India are the only place where spirituality in its best form has evolved - I do not agree! My ideal is a combination betwen yoga and the spirituality the Vikings 1000 years ago evolved. They didn't sit at home meditating in a cave, or was satisfied sitting in front of a beggar-bowl like Buddha, they went out in the world letting their dynamic spiritual masculine force lead them, let us do the same but in a form with love and compassion instead of with the sword!! My "bible" is the amazing book the danish professor of religion Vilhelm Grönbech wrote entitled: The Culture of The Teutons. You cannot read this one without getting - atleast if you are a true ancestor of the Vikings - a fat blow right into your face and soul which break down your former worldpicture, shaking your cosmos changing you forever so you will never be the same again!! Regards Lars then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 http://www.janice142.com/JoyPage/HagartheHorrible.gif , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > devishakti wrote: > > "To realise God an aspirant must have ; Patience, > Perseverance, Purity of body and mind, Intense desire > or yearning, the aggregate of six attributes, namely, > Shama( tranquility of mind ), Dama(restraint of the > senses), Upaparati (giving up of attachment to > objects), Titiksha ( remaining unaffected amidst all > kinds of afflictions ), Shraddha ( faith in the words > of the spiritual teacher and the scriptures ), > Samadhana ( concentration of mind on the chosen ideal > of God)." > > Yeah, and when you have realized God(ess), have become a better human being, dressed yourself in a true humanity, got emphaty, creativity, vulcanic energy, then it's time to let the masculine dynamic force stream out in the world reshaping it to a better place to live! Not only for the humans but for the animals, the plants, the nature - yes, the whole of Mother Earth!! It is the religon of Life and the reverence of it we shall adopt if we will be the true warriors of the Great Mother! That is her message to me which she continue to vibrate my whole soul with from morning to night - day after day! > > You think you in India are the only place where spirituality in its best form has evolved - I do not agree! My ideal is a combination betwen yoga and the spirituality the Vikings 1000 years ago evolved. They didn't sit at home meditating in a cave, or was satisfied sitting in front of a beggar-bowl like Buddha, they went out in the world letting their dynamic spiritual masculine force lead them, let us do the same but in a form with love and compassion instead of with the sword!! > > My "bible" is the amazing book the danish professor of religion Vilhelm Grönbech wrote entitled: The Culture of The Teutons. You cannot read this one without getting - atleast if you are a true ancestor of the Vikings - a fat blow right into your face and soul which break down your former worldpicture, shaking your cosmos changing you forever so you will never be the same again!! > > Regards > > Lars > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 mahahradanatha: http://www.janice142.com/JoyPage/HagartheHorrible.gif Grönbech points out very clearly that the vikings and the Teutons often disobeyed their leader. They were characters not robots in the mass. The romans had a hard way to understand the behaviour of the "barbarians". A teuton could risk his life for a stranger but also kill him for the least reason. Grönbech manage to map this irrational behaviour through a detailed analysis of the spiritual life of the teutons in his 750 page The Culture of the Teutons - this is worldlitterature which hasn't got its full appreciation. I am convinced of that Grönbech had some kind of paranormal abilities. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 My Dear Lars you wrote: then it's time to let the masculine dynamic force stream out in the world reshaping it... ....if we will be the true warriors of the Great Mother! You think you in India are the only place where spirituality in its best formhas evolved - I do not agree! My ideal is a combination betwen yoga and thespirituality the Vikings 1000 years ago evolved. They didn't sit at home meditating in a cave, or was satisfied sitting in front of a beggar-bowl like Buddha, they went out in the world letting their dynamic spiritual masculine force lead them, .... They were characters not robots in the mass. The romans had a hard way to understand the behaviour of the "barbarians". A teuton could risk his life for a stranger but also kill him for the least reason. I must say i do not like your killing for the least reason and life risking(does that mean the same as without reason?) Vikings and Teutons so much. They are so strong and male and commanding and unlike me and what i consider wise. Except of course Hagar the Horribble and Captain Teutonic they are so sweet! Enjoy http://www.thequarter.org/Media/Teutonic.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 mahahradanatha wrote: "I must say i do not like your killing for the least reason and life risking(does that mean the same as without reason?) Vikings and Teutons so much. They are so strong and male and commanding and unlike me and what i consider wise." Ofcourse this behaviour is nothing I adore, they were REALLY conditioned in many bad aspects. So ridiculous to kill for the least reason just because the honor was wounded. What is so interesting with the book of Grönbech is that he has managed to analyse the souls of the Teutons in a remarkable way. It is the good, positive aspects of the spiritual world of the Teutons which are so amazing and parts of their outlook of life. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Dear lars I thought the nordic tribes were rather more warriors than spiritual people, if i could choose i would prefer living in one of the ancient mediterreanean societies like the greek, roman, cretan, or egyptian, there is more i can relate to in these cultures then in the nordic patriarchic warrior type cultures like vikings, teutons, saxons etc. > > Ofcourse this behaviour is nothing I adore, they were REALLY conditioned in many bad aspects. So ridiculous to kill for the least reason just because the honor was wounded. What is so interesting with the book of Grönbech is that he has managed to analyse the souls of the Teutons in a remarkable way. It is the good, positive aspects of the spiritual world of the Teutons which are so amazing and parts of their outlook of life. > > Regards > > Lars > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 In a message dated 6/8/2005 11:32:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kalipadma108 writes: There is, of course, a Western Neo-Pagan tradition called Asatru (Old Norse for "Faith of the Gods"). I love the old Eddas and Sagas, but my favorite of the Aesir (Gods) isn't one of the warriors armed with spear or sword. It's Bragi, the court Skald (Poet), who prefers to battle with his tongue (i.e., reasoned arguement) instead of his biceps. -- Len/ Kalipadma hahah My favourite has always been Loki the trickster. He break down old structures so that new ones can emerge. I myself try to embody this as best I can. I also change my appearance regularly so that I do not stick to much to one form. The norse myths are very wonderful and packed with meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 In a message dated 6/8/2005 12:09:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mahahradanatha writes: Dear lars I thought the nordic tribes were rather more warriors than spiritual people, if i could choose i would prefer living in one of the ancient mediterreanean societies like the greek, roman, cretan, or egyptian, there is more i can relate to in these cultures then in the nordic patriarchic warrior type cultures like vikings, teutons, saxons etc. Awwww C'mon like the Romans weren't "warrior types" or the Greeks, or anybody else??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 There is, of course, a Western Neo-Pagan tradition called Asatru (Old Norse for "Faith of the Gods"). I love the old Eddas and Sagas, but my favorite of the Aesir (Gods) isn't one of the warriors armed with spear or sword. It's Bragi, the court Skald (Poet), who prefers to battle with his tongue (i.e., reasoned arguement) instead of his biceps. -- Len/ Kalipadma --- Lars Hedström <lars wrote: > mahahradanatha wrote: > > "I must say i do not like your killing for the least > reason and life > risking(does that mean the same as without reason?) > Vikings and > Teutons so much. They are so strong and male and > commanding and > unlike me and what i consider wise." > > Ofcourse this behaviour is nothing I adore, they > were REALLY conditioned in many bad aspects. So > ridiculous to kill for the least reason just because > the honor was wounded. What is so interesting with > the book of Grönbech is that he has managed to > analyse the souls of the Teutons in a remarkable > way. It is the good, positive aspects of the > spiritual world of the Teutons which are so amazing > and parts of their outlook of life. > > Regards > > Lars > Discover Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover./mobile.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 In a message dated 6/8/2005 5:48:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lars writes: Who was now a "barbarian", eh? Regards Lars At some point in history I believe everyone was and even riin our era many still are, but the nobility seems to have gone down quite a bit now hasn't it? It isn't about survival, people are waging devastating wars only for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 mahahradanatha : "Dear lars I thought the nordic tribes were rather more warriors than spiritual people, if i could choose i would prefer living in one of the ancient mediterreanean societies like the greek, roman, cretan, or egyptian, there is more i can relate to in these cultures then in the nordic patriarchic warrior type cultures like vikings, teutons, saxons etc." If someone were warriors the Romans and the Greece really were. Already forgotten Alexander the Great slaughter? :-) He reached even as far as to India. According to some historians Alexander commited a horrible devastating of the persian culture. Who was now a "barbarian", eh? Regards Lars > > Ofcourse this behaviour is nothing I adore, they were REALLY conditioned in many bad aspects. So ridiculous to kill for the least reason just because the honor was wounded. What is so interesting with the book of Grönbech is that he has managed to analyse the souls of the Teutons in a remarkable way. It is the good, positive aspects of the spiritual world of the Teutons which are so amazing and parts of their outlook of life. > > Regards > > Lars > > > > > -- / b.. c.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 swastik: "It isn't about survival, people are waging devastating wars only for money." And for fun also it seems. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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