Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 The mediterreanen cultures were more than simple warrior/hunter socities and offered a wider range and variety of religious ideas and philosophical thought sciences and art than the relativly simple nordic cultures. , Max Dashu <maxdashu@l...> wrote: > >Awwww C'mon like the Romans weren't "warrior types" or the Greeks, > >or anybody else??? > > My reaction exactly. > > Viking culture, as expansionist, looting, slave-taking and -trading > warriors, doesn't appeal to me, but the older pagan traditions of > Scandanavia, now that's something else again. Great riches. The seers > who practiced utiseti ("sitting out") on the land, the runic > knowledge, the old carvings with their swirling knotwork, so many > beautiful traditions there. > > Max > -- > Max Dashu > Suppressed Histories Archives > Global Women's History > http://www.suppressedhistories.net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Max Dashu wrote: "Viking culture, as expansionist, looting, slave-taking and -trading warriors, doesn't appeal to me," But it is the dynamic masculine force which appeals to me! The ability to take action and the physical culture! The urge from within to continously search for new horizons with courage and a never ending primordial force! Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Hi Lars: *** it is the dynamic masculine force which appeals to me! The ability to take action and the physical culture! *** Since Shaktism explicitly attributes all of these qualities (i.e., the physical world, the ability to take action, and dynamism itself) to Devi, that is, the Divine Feminine -- with the Divine Masculine conceptualized as essentially inert and inactive Pure Consciousness -- I must ask what might be the appeal of this group to you? Just curious! DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 devi bhakta wrote: "Since Shaktism explicitly attributes all of these qualities (i.e., the physical world, the ability to take action, and dynamism itself) to Devi, that is, the Divine Feminine -- with the Divine Masculine conceptualized as essentially inert and inactive Pure Consciousness -- I must ask what might be the appeal of this group to you?" I do not agree, there are other traditions which attribute the ability to take action, and dynamism to the divine masculine force. If we look in the world the male bastards are more able to make changes in the physical world than the female holy women. This view reflects also our bigger muscles and bigger lung-capacity etc. Anyway I am not slave to any tradition, I am not sitting in a chamber theorizing and guessing, I am constructing my own religion based on my paranormal or metaphysical experiences, my connection to cosmos. Nevertheless the Godess will always be Number One to me. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Namaste Lars, I feel you may have missed DB's point. As I have a positive personal link to a Nordic tradition I have watched this thread with some interest and I feel you didn't understand DB's point. This particular group is Shakti Sadhana and while the discussions range outward in marvelous creative ways, the core of the group's existence is the perspective of the Shakti Hindu tradition which, as DB said: "explicitly attributes all of these qualities (i.e., the physical world, the ability to take action, and dynamism itself) to Devi, that is, the Divine Feminine -- with the Divine Masculine conceptualized as essentially inert and inactive Pure Consciousness" Given that, and with no personal predjudice whatsoever toward the Nordic tradition in general, I too am wondering what brings you to participate in this group and what you might think you will get out of it? Blessings, prainbow , Lars Hedström <lars@2...> wrote: > devi bhakta wrote: > > "Since Shaktism explicitly attributes all of these qualities (i.e., the > physical world, the ability to take action, and dynamism itself) to > Devi, that is, the Divine Feminine -- with the Divine Masculine > conceptualized as essentially inert and inactive Pure Consciousness -- > I must ask what might be the appeal of this group to you?" > > I do not agree, there are other traditions which attribute the ability to take action, and dynamism to the divine masculine force. > > If we look in the world the male bastards are more able to make changes in the physical world than the female holy women. This view reflects also our bigger muscles and bigger lung-capacity etc. > > Anyway I am not slave to any tradition, I am not sitting in a chamber theorizing and guessing, I am constructing my own religion based on my paranormal or metaphysical experiences, my connection to cosmos. Nevertheless the Godess will always be Number One to me. > > Regards > > Lars > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 >But it is the dynamic masculine force which appeals to me! The >ability to take action and the physical culture! There are other forms of dynamism which do not commit harm to others. Other kinds of daring exploration and physical attainment, which inspire rather than inflict suffering and horror. I believe the warrior can align with the sacred, although this is not what is usually seen, in examples like the Lakota leader Crazy Horse, the Brazilian environmentalist Chico Mendes, or the leader of the pagan revolt against the Roman empire, Civilis of Germania. These are defenders, not attackers, and many of them have been women, too, like the Rani of Jhansi. But the greatest strength of spirit can be shown non-combatively, like S'iva drinking the poison in order to save the world. Max -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Don't underestimate the non-literate societies. Many had extremely advanced philosophies and shamanic arts. Only traces remain of the Norse wisdom, what was written down in the early christian era, and this only hints at what look to be very profound teachings. cheers, Max >The mediterreanen cultures were more than simple warrior/hunter >socities and offered a wider range and variety of religious ideas >and philosophical thought sciences and art than the relativly simple >nordic cultures. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 prainbow61 wrote: "Given that, and with no personal predjudice whatsoever toward the Nordic tradition in general, I too am wondering what brings you to participate in this group and what you might think you will get out of it?" Because I have had a religous experience with the Goddess due to my kundaliniyoga practice - I do a lot of yoga - she is very alive to me, she has choosen me as her warrior - and I am also very interested of Tantra. As I live in Scandinavia I feel also the roots inside myself to the norse traditions. Regards Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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