Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

LalithA SahasranAma [293] bhogini

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Guest guest

bhogini – The enjoyer.

 

Bhogini is the name of a female serpent [nAgakanyA].

 

 

BhAskararAya's Commentary

Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Dr. Suryanarayana Murthy adds, in his 1962 commentary:

 

"BhoginI [means She] who enjoys Bhoga or happiness, which here means

BrahmAnanda; i.e., She is jIvanmuktA."

 

DB

 

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...>

wrote:

>

> bhogini – The enjoyer.

>

> Bhogini is the name of a female serpent [nAgakanyA].

>

>

> BhAskararAya's Commentary

> Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

, "devi_bhakta" <devi_bhakta> wrote:

> Dr. Suryanarayana Murthy adds, in his 1962 commentary:

>

> "BhoginI [means She] who enjoys Bhoga or happiness, which here means

> BrahmAnanda; i.e., She is jIvanmuktA."

 

Quiet strange designation for DEVI, nah? How can She be jivanmukta if She is

giver of mukti

itself :)

 

BTW this name also implies that She can be reached through bhoga.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Hi Arjuna:

 

You write, re: jIvanmuktA: *** Quite strange designation for DEVI, nah?

***

 

It is indeed.

 

*** How can She be jivanmukta if She is giver of mukti itself? :) ***

 

That is the right question. Now think about what the answer might be. ;-

)

 

Aim MAtangyai NamaH

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

, "Arjuna Taradasa"

<bhagatirtha@m...> wrote:

> Quiet strange designation for DEVI, nah? How can She be jivanmukta

if

She is giver of mukti

> itself :)

>

> BTW this name also implies that She can be reached through bhoga.

 

If your interpretation is true, shouldnt we also conclude that the

word

Yogini implies that She can be reached through Yoga too?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

93

 

LOL i do not say there is a difficulty to speculate around why Devi can be

called

Jivanmukta.

 

The question is this: IS She called thus in Tantras? I do not remember such

issues,

although surely it doesn't necessarily mean that She is not...

 

 

, "devi_bhakta" <devi_bhakta> wrote:

> Hi Arjuna:

>

> You write, re: jIvanmuktA: *** Quite strange designation for DEVI, nah?

> ***

>

> It is indeed.

>

> *** How can She be jivanmukta if She is giver of mukti itself? :) ***

>

> That is the right question. Now think about what the answer might be. ;-

> )

>

> Aim MAtangyai NamaH

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

93

 

Ur brilliance, Satish-ji, is astonishing :D. Yes, She can be reached through

Yoga ;). Not

gymnastic and fitness, but true yoga...

 

There cannot exist any bhoga in Devi herself. Because for bhoga OBJECT is

needed. And

She is Totality, Purnata. Thus Bhogini can exclusively mean that She reveals

herself in

bhoga - which implies that through bhoga She can be acquired.

 

A.

 

, "satisharigela" <satisharigela>

wrote:

> , "Arjuna Taradasa"

> <bhagatirtha@m...> wrote:

> > Quiet strange designation for DEVI, nah? How can She be jivanmukta

> if

> She is giver of mukti

> > itself :)

> >

> > BTW this name also implies that She can be reached through bhoga.

>

> If your interpretation is true, shouldnt we also conclude that the

> word

> Yogini implies that She can be reached through Yoga too?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Greetings,

 

, "Arjuna Taradasa"

<bhagatirtha@m...> wrote:

>Yes, She can be reached through Yoga ;). Not

> gymnastic and fitness, but true yoga...

 

That is what I meant by Yoga i.e rAja yoga.

haTha yoga(gymnastics in your words) can only prepare one for rAja

yoga. The word Yoga cannotates physical exercises only to westerners

and uninformed Indians.

> There cannot exist any bhoga in Devi herself. Because for bhoga

>OBJECT is needed. And

> She is Totality, Purnata. Thus Bhogini can exclusively mean that

>She reveals herself in

> bhoga - which implies that through bhoga She can be acquired.

 

Please note that I am not interested in contesting whether above is

true or not.

My concern is if the specific word bhoginI is meant to be understood

like what you say above.

 

According to bhAskararAya the great kaula teacher and

GYAnAnandanAtha, a renowned 19th century samayin and author of the

shrIvidya classic shAradA catushshati, bhogini means the following,

 

1) The enjoyer - as per bhAskararAya.

 

2)bhoga means experience of pleasure. Being of the nature of

brahmAnanda(i.e being brahmAnanda svarUpiNi) and since She is also of

the form of manas(mind-heart) and buddhi(intellect) which experience

that, She is called bhoginI. -- according to GYAnAnandanAtha.

 

Above is inline with general advaita and various kashmir shaiva

teachings.

 

So there we have, both the Samayin and Kaula interpretations by

respective experts, and they dont differ.

 

One needs mastery over the vyAkarana shAstra to derive(or arrive at)

independant interpretations.

 

What you said might be true but if the word bhogini means that or not

is a different question.

 

To elaborate further:

All feminine:

jananI - one who gives birth

pAlinI - one who rules - ruler

shamanI - one who calms/mollifies - mollifier

..

..

bhoginI- one who enjoys - enjoyer.

 

Imagine applying your interpretation on the lines of bhogini to each

of these.

 

Rgds

sa.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

93

 

Satish, i never stated that bhogini literally means "one who is reached through

bhoga" - of

course not. I said that this name also implies that.

 

And this is in accordance with Agamas: bhogena labhate mokShaM bhogena labhate

sukham, tasmAt sarvaprayatnena sAdhako bhogavAn bhavet.

 

There is no problem among us in this issue as i see :).

 

A.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...