Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I was told by a spiritualist that in order to achieve moksha one has to be married and must have a child of his or her own. The reason the spiritualist gave was that it is ones duty to go through karma yoga and having a family is one of them. Is there any truth to this phenomena? regards Tulasi Dharan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Different karma for different people, thus there is no hard and fast rule. You can be a great mahatma and be married, as a well as a great mahatma and unmarried practicing celibate. Thus, it all depends on your personal samskaras (past life tendencies), and what Karma you have to express or exhaust, to attain spiritual beatitude in whatever school of thought you may to. It is the inner state that counts, not the outward station of one's life. Maybe one has gone through the Grihastha ashram (householder) life in past lives, thus negating the necessity for that in the present life. Or it could even be the other way around. Thus, there are no hard and fast rules, as karma is purely the determining factor. From a common sense approach, If what the spiritualist told you was true, people would always wait till they were widowed or whatever to become monks, nuns, etc. (which many don't), or there wouldn't hardly be any people following (the 4th stage of life - sannyas) for that matter. Janardana Dasa Tulasi <thundergod999 wrote: I was told by a spiritualist that in order to achieve moksha one has to be married and must have a child of his or her own. The reason the spiritualist gave was that it is ones duty to go through karma yoga and having a family is one of them. Is there any truth to this phenomena? regards Tulasi Dharan Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 If that was true, then all the renunciates throughout history would only have been undergoing these extreme ascetic practices to entangle themselves more in samsara.... I simply cannot believe it! What do you mean by spiritualist? Are they qualified to make such statements? I always thought non-attachment was the key to moksha and for many this would mean very deliberatly not getting married and having children although some people can live in the world and still be detached I think for most it is quite difficult. Tulasi <thundergod999 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:34:40 -0000 Karma yoga I was told by a spiritualist that in order to achieve moksha one has to be married and must have a child of his or her own. The reason the spiritualist gave was that it is ones duty to go through karma yoga and having a family is one of them. Is there any truth to this phenomena? regards Tulasi Dharan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I am going to guess the spiritualist is referring some passages from the Laws of Manu, summarized on the webpage below. [These appear to be a professor's notes for a class. I have not read the Laws of Manu, but these notes appear to be more or less in agreement with another summary I have read.] http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~jsa3/362/notes/Women%20and%20dharma.htm [begin edited quote] [summarized from:] The Laws of Manu [....] A. Every man of the three upper varnas is born with three debts 1. He repays his debt to the sages by learning the Vedas. Only twice- born men are permitted to learn the Vedas. 2. He repays his debt to the gods by performing sacrifice. [...] [O]nly a householder (i.e., a married man) can perform sacrifice. 3. His debt to the ancestors is repaid for him by his son, who performs for him the rites at and after death. [....] [end quote] Obviously, not everybody organizes his or her life in accordance with the above. > > > > [Tulasi wrote:] > > I was told by a spiritualist > that in order to achieve moksha one has > to be married and must have a child of his or her own. > [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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