significance of pancha dasi mantra

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namaste to all

 

Can you please tell me what does the scriptures say about the benefits of

chanting panchadasi mantra

 

kind regards

 

vikram

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

vikram vanam wrote: Can you please tell me what does the scriptures

say about the benefits of chanting panchadasi mantra

 

 

 

Odd question to be asked by someone who claim to be initiated into

Sri Vidya Upasana. Let me refresh your previous comment : "my guru who

has initiated me into sri vidya upasana, is himselve a great Kaula

guru and when ...."

 

Im being told once "they think tantra is some very esoteric thing

that looks high and mighty and wants to learn philosophy and theory.

Philosophy and theory will only cloud vision before you reach the

goal.Once you reach the goal all the philosophy and theory will be

known without studying"

[Guest guest]

Dear Madasamy

 

Thanks for your insight....

 

But however I am curious to know what the scriptures say about the benefits of

chanting the panchadasi mantra

 

Am i not correct if I want to see what would be the goal even before I have

reached it

 

Yes, I have been initiated and my Guru did say see what happens when you start

chanting

 

regards

vikram

 

 

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote:

vikram vanam wrote: Can you please tell me what does the scriptures

say about the benefits of chanting panchadasi mantra

 

 

 

Odd question to be asked by someone who claim to be initiated into

Sri Vidya Upasana. Let me refresh your previous comment : "my guru who

has initiated me into sri vidya upasana, is himselve a great Kaula

guru and when ...."

 

Im being told once "they think tantra is some very esoteric thing

that looks high and mighty and wants to learn philosophy and theory.

Philosophy and theory will only cloud vision before you reach the

goal.Once you reach the goal all the philosophy and theory will be

known without studying"

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

vikram vanam wrote: But however I am curious to know what the

scriptures say about the benefits of chanting the panchadasi mantra

Am i not correct if I want to see what would be the goal even

before I have reached it. Yes, I have been initiated and my Guru did

say see what happens when you start chanting

 

 

 

Nora asked : When you scale the mountains, what is more important to

you? Reaching the top or the process of taking that journey to reach

top.

 

I am being told many times : why are some people so stupid.

When you can just take the helicopter and land on the top of the

mountain instead of wasting their time trying to climb from the

bottom.

[Guest guest]

Dear Nora

 

I forgot your first name, please accept my apologies

 

It might be a weakness of mine, I am very inquisitive in knowing what happens

when a sadhaka approaches the door of liberation opened by the divine mother

 

And can a sadhaka remain dual till the end if he is a sri vidya upasaka, since I

want to enjoy being close to the divine mother rather than merging in her

 

regards

vikram

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote:

vikram vanam wrote: But however I am curious to know what the

scriptures say about the benefits of chanting the panchadasi mantra

Am i not correct if I want to see what would be the goal even

before I have reached it. Yes, I have been initiated and my Guru did

say see what happens when you start chanting

 

 

 

Nora asked : When you scale the mountains, what is more important to

you? Reaching the top or the process of taking that journey to reach

top.

 

I am being told many times : why are some people so stupid.

When you can just take the helicopter and land on the top of the

mountain instead of wasting their time trying to climb from the

bottom.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, vikram vanam

<vikram_vanam2005> wrote:

> Dear Nora

>

> I forgot your first name, please accept my apologies

>

> It might be a weakness of mine, I am very inquisitive in knowing

what happens when a sadhaka approaches the door of liberation opened

by the divine mother

>

> And can a sadhaka remain dual till the end if he is a sri vidya

upasaka, since I want to enjoy being close to the divine mother

rather than merging in her

 

 

 

 

 

....... thus the sayings goes : curiosity kills the cat. How can you

set the goal when you are the goal itself, for Devi is within you.

[Guest guest]

Dear Vikram:

 

You ask to know "about the benefits of chanting the panchadasi

mantra" so that you can "see what would be the goal even before I

have reached it." This despite the fact that your Guru has advised

you to simply practice, and "see what happens when you start

chanting."

 

So -- to my understanding, you are looking for more concrete

explanations than those with which your Guru has already provided

you. And thus I must ask you (or rather, ask you to ask yourself):

Do you not trust your Guru's guidance? Is it really necessary to

invite strangers in an online forum to second-guess her or him? It

does not seem to be a promising basis for a Guru-shishya

relationship.

 

In fact, your question raised in my mind the same issues raised at

the outset by Nora. Are you really initiated? If so, in what

parampara? Because, generally speaking, if a shishya belongs to a

proper lineage then this question would never arise in the first

place.

 

Still, I see no harm in accepting your representation that yes,

you're initiated, though the details remain obscure. And I can only

tell you what I was taught by my own guru, that the Pancadasi is a

hugely powerful mantra that brings the shishya exactly what the guru

who gives it wants it to give her or him. It is a channel for

infinite power, wealth, health, fame, enjoyment and grace – but its

effects vary, depending on the individual using it. It delivers only

and precisely what is needed in each individual case.

 

Even in the Vedas, Panchadasi is given in coded form only; in fact,

few people even realize it is there. In my own Guru's words, "It is

usually not written down in the mantra form because it is supposed

to be transmitted directly, orally, from Guru to shishya. And even

if it is found is written in a book, it cannot be taken from there

as it will not yield results. Like a woman of quality, She

[Panchadasi] can be had only through proper marriage – meaning

initiation from a Guru; and not just any Guru, but only one who has

attained its fruits. It [the mantra] is an unthinkably rich asset

and blessing; it is like an uncut jewel. The more you polish it, the

more beautiful it becomes. The more you practice it the more you get

out of it."

 

And that, dear Vikram, is as specific as I'm going to get. The rest

you will learn from your Guru, or you will not learn it at all. If

you still hunger for additional commentary on this great mantra, I

refer you to Shankaracharya's Soundaryalahari.

 

I would further add that Nora has answered you well in your exchange

earlier today. Perhaps you should go back and review what she has

said. Sometimes when we insist upon being taught or given something

too persistently and single-mindedly, we miss the subtle attempts of

others to provide precisely what we seek, just in a form slightly

different than we expected.

 

Aim MAtangyai NamaH

[Guest guest]

Dear Devi Bhakta

 

Many thanks for letting me know the greatness of the mantra

 

I had no thought of second guessing what my Guru said , I was more inquisitive

 

About my Guru lineage, I guess you would know about my Guru already although I

dont want to mention his name

 

I have just started walking the path, i guess with some more patience I would

myself get the answers to what I need to ask

 

regards

vikram

 

Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote:

Dear Vikram:

 

You ask to know "about the benefits of chanting the panchadasi

mantra" so that you can "see what would be the goal even before I

have reached it." This despite the fact that your Guru has advised

you to simply practice, and "see what happens when you start

chanting."

 

So -- to my understanding, you are looking for more concrete

explanations than those with which your Guru has already provided

you. And thus I must ask you (or rather, ask you to ask yourself):

Do you not trust your Guru's guidance? Is it really necessary to

invite strangers in an online forum to second-guess her or him? It

does not seem to be a promising basis for a Guru-shishya

relationship.

 

In fact, your question raised in my mind the same issues raised at

the outset by Nora. Are you really initiated? If so, in what

parampara? Because, generally speaking, if a shishya belongs to a

proper lineage then this question would never arise in the first

place.

 

Still, I see no harm in accepting your representation that yes,

you're initiated, though the details remain obscure. And I can only

tell you what I was taught by my own guru, that the Pancadasi is a

hugely powerful mantra that brings the shishya exactly what the guru

who gives it wants it to give her or him. It is a channel for

infinite power, wealth, health, fame, enjoyment and grace – but its

effects vary, depending on the individual using it. It delivers only

and precisely what is needed in each individual case.

 

Even in the Vedas, Panchadasi is given in coded form only; in fact,

few people even realize it is there. In my own Guru's words, "It is

usually not written down in the mantra form because it is supposed

to be transmitted directly, orally, from Guru to shishya. And even

if it is found is written in a book, it cannot be taken from there

as it will not yield results. Like a woman of quality, She

[Panchadasi] can be had only through proper marriage – meaning

initiation from a Guru; and not just any Guru, but only one who has

attained its fruits. It [the mantra] is an unthinkably rich asset

and blessing; it is like an uncut jewel. The more you polish it, the

more beautiful it becomes. The more you practice it the more you get

out of it."

 

And that, dear Vikram, is as specific as I'm going to get. The rest

you will learn from your Guru, or you will not learn it at all. If

you still hunger for additional commentary on this great mantra, I

refer you to Shankaracharya's Soundaryalahari.

 

I would further add that Nora has answered you well in your exchange

earlier today. Perhaps you should go back and review what she has

said. Sometimes when we insist upon being taught or given something

too persistently and single-mindedly, we miss the subtle attempts of

others to provide precisely what we seek, just in a form slightly

different than we expected.

 

Aim MAtangyai NamaH

 

 

 

 

 

 

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