Devi as the Lover [Becoming Ma! ]

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the warm welcome, Nora. I was just hiding behind the

curtain (or HER sari) ;-)

 

Not to answer your question about marriage and if it is sex all the

time....but to share my thoughts about it.

 

In the World, love is not just running around the trees, breaking

into songs as popularly proscribed in b(k)ollywood movies and living

happily ever after. Or to quote old tamil movies, while being

together before marriage, when the man touches the woman, "this is

all after the marriage!!" ROFL. Well the latter statement alludes

that it is generally sex (and only sex?) after marriage.

 

The fights, long silence (due to bliss of just being there with

him/her), of course days long of talking sweet nothings, serious

planning for the future, how to raise kids, buying a new home. How

to put food on the table and of course the ubiquitous in-laws

(shudder!!!). Listening to songs and reliving the past, of course,

cuddling in the bed and going to sleep with the feeling that one is

safe and loved. Then, kids......first 5 years of sleepless nights,

crying in the middle of the night......running to the clinic when

the tylenol/cough medicine does not work. Watching them grow too

fast....worrying about schools, the friends of kids....good or bad

influence. Them cuddling with dad/mom just for the sake of cuddling.

Tantrums.......then......"KiLikku rekkai molaichuduthu, aathai vittu

paranthu poiduthu" (to the uninitiated in Tamil, it is a quote from

an old Tamil movie, where the main character tells his wife when

their adopted son leaves home, the pet parrot has grown feathers -

moulted into an adult - and left home) etc etc.......

 

In my opinion, love is when one partner thinks (always) in terms of

the other. Or in other words, there is no "I" but "WE" - which means

there will be some instances of "I" coming into play as well. This

WE applies to everything connected to the married life, spouse,

kids, relatives.........and even in-laws (ROFL).

 

That is why most of the SVU's have no problems with "married life" -

cos they learn unconditional love from the Supreme Teacher HERself.

As a parent, child, lover and in times as a teacher, who tests the

students in a way that students do not fail miserably, but learn

definitely.

 

In the looooong list above, sex exists somewhere. Even there, it is

110% from each partner. Where each is satisfied to the point of

breathless ecstasy. It should not be wham, bang, thank you ma'am.

Before I start to sound like a 60 cents cyber porn writer, I will

end this rambling of mine! ;-)

 

The object of Shiva-Shakthi (bindu) upasana is to transcend Maya and

merge with Shiva-Shakthi (giving 110%). I see no reason why such an

effort should/must not be made in the Maya itself. After all, SHE

(as Shiva-Shakthi) is love and everything (SVU, spouse, kids, crazy

neighbour, yea even the in-laws), with a mega stress on the LOVE

part.

 

G

 

PS: I must admit that I do not show unconditional love to everybody

any more, but only to those who do not hurt other people or take

advantage of my good intentions. I simply do not have the mental

warewhithal for negative/evil emotions any more. Drains me

completely. Can't take on the Whole World. Now I have learnt to

work on case by case basis. Get one out of the doledrums, let

her/him stand on own feet, move to the next.

 

 

> Thank you ganpra. Nice to see you back in the group again.I had an

> interesting discussion with another not so young man [ he has

been

> married for 2 yrs ] and as soon he being told :yes! its possible

to

> appraoch Devi as a lover, immediately the idea of sex comes into

> his mind. I then asked the question : does love must always equal

> to sex? Can you love somebody without the sexual aspect?

>

> UNCONDITIONAL LOVE towards Devi, the lovers mode is the highest

> form of devotion. The mother and child is the simplest and the

> second best . A lot of people go into that mode because its much

> easier for them to relate to but you dont merge with you're

> mother. That is incestous. so the mother and child devotion will

> remain as it is. You continue to be a separate entity and you can

> never merge with her. Only when you're the lover, you merge as one

> that is the purpose of our sadhana. to merge with the divine and

> you transcendent to be Durga or Lalitha or Tara. Whatever ista

> devata is your choice That is my understanding. If you refer

again

> to Ramprased Ren Poems from the beginning: Visions of the Goddess

> and Tantric Hymns of Enlightment. He progresses from this Mother-

> Child to eventually lovers mode. Read the poems properly and you

may

> understand what im talking about. He is widely known as the

intense

> lover of the Goddess.

>

> Of our senior members told me : If devi is you, thinking having

sex

> with Devi a masturbatory process.

>

> That is the problem when you cannot look beyond the physical

> aspect. When you think abt lover, immediately you think abt sex.

> And for those who have been condition that sex is bad. Sex is

dirty,

> they immediately reject the whole idea without even use their

brain

> to think first. For those of us who are married especially with

> somebody we fall in love with, does married life means sex all the

> time?

[Guest guest]

have you tried this punditji???

And you are still with us poor travellers on the path??

 

Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote:

Namaskaar

 

I would like to disagree with the following statement

" The mother and child is the simplest and the second best . A lot of people go

into that mode because its much easier for them to relate to but you don't

merge with you're mother. That is incestous. so the mother and child devotion

will remain as it is. You continue to be a separate entity and you can never

merge with her."

 

This is according to your understanding. I would like to suggest another way of

becoming one with Ma that you may not be aware of. This is for the real Viras

only - I'm serious this is really dangerous ! Juniors should pretend they have

never even seen this email.

 

Perform Shavasana and focus on the bindu,reciting only Aum, resonate this from

all chakras, when you have mentally connected with it ask Ma to absorb you ( if

you have the courage !) This does not involve any sex or sexual thoughts but I

assure you when you she absorbs you and are one with Ma there is no feeling in

the world quite like it.

Actually sex and orgasms pale in comparison to this feeling - both are quite

short lived ! And its not incestous either.

 

This is quite exhilarating and you still get to be MA's child ( I am quite fond

of this lower state you see ) by merging with her you get partially transformed

into her for the period of time that she

allows you as your reward. One caution here for all that would try this, when

her energy begins to descend you will experience a feeling as though you are

being split apart atom by atom, if you cannot bear it beg her pardon for

disturbing her unnecessarily and continue reciting her mantra as atonement !

When you are done make sure to eat something light and drink lots of water.

 

FINAL WARNING

DO NOT TRY THIS if you are not prepared for final rest because if she absorbs

you and its your time to go, you will be gone and no one will be able to help

you.

 

 

Dhanyavaad

Pandit Devindra Maharaj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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