Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 HI Nora I only said that I am being misunderstood thats it, since I too am not being clear when I write something i know some of the poeple who are really nice are bit angry about me not revealing my Guru's name the reason being that all of you know him well and if I not wrong he is the only one who is very powerfull teacher and infinitely compassionate .. I think these hints has revealed who he is I am based out of bangalore,india and love to read the information that you nora and others put in , this gives me lot to learn vik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 My not posting the information you ask for says nothing about any attachement that I may or may not have but it does say something about my wish to protect you from your baser instincts and provide an opportunity for you to explore other venues than the material. , "childofdevi" <childofdevi> wrote: > >secrecy is never a good idea > > How about providing your bank account details here, also dont forget > to post your credit card numbers (make sure not to omit the three > digit number at the back of the card).... > > OK I was joking and said the above "Just For Amusement" LOL. > > > adherent of secrecy has something to hid, something to be > > ashamed of, something that is preventing an upward > > progression to Self-Realization. > > > > Besides, there is no such thing as secrecy to even the mildly > > aware person. One's unproductive behaviours and words are > > open to all. Negativity is apparent to all (especially to animals). > > The Guru or any spiritually advanced person knows the intimate > > conscious and subconscious thoughts and urges of the > > aspirant, even those which the aspirant is unwilling to admit or is > > unaware of. > > > > The road to Self-Realization depends on discipline and > > purification. Secrecy inhibits both of these. > > > > > > > > , "childofdevi" > > <childofdevi> wrote: > > > Hmm... very interesting. I guess you are the very epitome of the > > > saying (from the Kularnava?) "One could be a Shaivite in > > outlook, a Vaishnavite in appearance but a Kaula in truth and > secrecy" (or some variant of that). > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > -yogaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 NOW, you are making alot of sense. It is just for every one of those reasons that i don't go about doing what i earlier said i didn't do. If you want to call it a "management tool" rather than secrecy, TATASTU (or as they say in FREEMASONRY "so mote it be") JANARDANA DASA just4amusement <just4amusement wrote: Your definition of secrecy seems to revolve around the idea of not parading one's knowledge. I agree that this idea is a good one for a variety of reasons, namely, 1. Whatever we think we know is incorrect or at best incomplete, 2. Not parading one's knowledge is a way to control the ego, 3. What we know may not be helpful to someone else who is on a different path or who has a different mind set, 4. Parading knowledge leads to arguments and division rather than unity, 5. Parading knowledge does not lead to progress but rather to staying in one spot and becoming mired in names and forms whereas maintaining one's own counsel leads to introspection and detachment. However, not parading knowledge cannot be considered to be secrecy but rather careful husbanding of one's resources. It is a management tool: it is not secrecy. To label this concept as secrecy is to lend credibility to staying in the shadows where one's animal nature lurks to cause problems. Promoting secrecy is a grave injustice and holds karmic consequences. , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > there is something to be said in favor of secrecy. Secrecy is advocated because it helps you hold dear what you have and then helps in developping. Not the type of thing secrecy has become. > > just4amusement <just4amusement> wrote:In matters of the Spirit, secrecy is never a good idea. Secrecy > inhibits self-examination, discrimination and dispassion. It > promotes vices and other obstacles to spiritual realization. The > adherent of secrecy has something to hid, something to be > ashamed of, something that is preventing an upward > progression to Self-Realization. > > Besides, there is no such thing as secrecy to even the mildly > aware person. One's unproductive behaviours and words are > open to all. Negativity is apparent to all (especially to animals). > The Guru or any spiritually advanced person knows the intimate > conscious and subconscious thoughts and urges of the > aspirant, even those which the aspirant is unwilling to admit or is > unaware of. > > The road to Self-Realization depends on discipline and > purification. Secrecy inhibits both of these. > > > > , "childofdevi" > <childofdevi> wrote: > > Hmm... very interesting. I guess you are the very epitome of the > > saying (from the Kularnava?) "One could be a Shaivite in > outlook, a Vaishnavite in appearance but a Kaula in truth and secrecy" (or some variant of that). > > > > Best wishes, > > -yogaman > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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