Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 93, > , "SR.Raj kumar" > <srirajarajeswari9> wrote: > > Sex is attained with the total control of all the six senses. All the senses are concentrating of the satisfaction derived by the > ejaculation/orgasm. Eyes behold something beautiful. ears are closed to any music and concentrate only on the act of sex. The sense of touch feels nothing but the coupleing of the bodies. Similarly the taste and smell. Above all, the mind coordinates all the senses towards the sexual bliss. Can anyone do any other thing while ejaculating or attaining an orgasm? No. No man or woman can. Because all his senses are lost in the ecstatic joy deriuved from sex climax. Exactly. But this is the true glimpse of Paramapada or Mahabhava. It is clearly stated in Vijnana-bhairava that the bliss of orgasm is a revealing of Brahma-tattva. > Hence in such an act a person shall definitely forget God, He "forgets" because he IS God. This is perfect the advaya-sthiti. >Hence satvik sadhana has the compulsory rule that sex should be abstained. This is contrary to the doctrine of Agamas and even Vedas. For grihastha sex is a MUST - if one doesn't satisfy his life partner sexually it is adharma. Sex may not be used as a means of sadhana - that is understandable. For tamasik people are incapable of effective sadhana, they have to keep away from sexual sadhanas. While true sattvik upasakas can and do use those... > > Secondly it is the semen which mixes with the blood forming the > shakthi in the body.Only a person who has abstained from sex shall be able to attain results on a very faster note. To mix semen and blood - which in fact brings up tremendous shakti - one has to have sex. But these methods are related to virachara, path of hero. Only one who follows his own true will and loves Shakti is suitable for it. adhikArI prahRiShTAtmA strIbhakto vijitendriyaH. Once again, let me put it: whether one has normal sex or not is not an obstacle by itself for spiritual path. It is mere body activity which doesn't affect consciousness. But if one is married then being celibate becomes a sin. Then, if sex is in love, it uplifts consciousness. Because "only love saves" and "liberation is achieved through enjoyment". Finally, if we speak about kaula-adept, for him sex is one of the most essential parts of sadhana. Sadhana which is far above so called "sattvic" upasana of exoteric sects. Hope this helps . Love is the law, love under will. A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Why do you begin your posts with a number (93)? Where do holy men like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, or avatars like Hanuman, fit in with your paradigm? They were married, yet never consummated their marriages. Were they sinful? -- Len/ Kalipadma --- Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote: > 93, <snip> > Once again, let me put it: > whether one has normal sex or not is not an obstacle > by itself for > spiritual path. It is mere body activity which > doesn't affect > consciousness. But if one is married then being > celibate becomes a > sin. > Then, if sex is in love, it uplifts consciousness. > Because "only > love saves" and "liberation is achieved through > enjoyment". > Finally, if we speak about kaula-adept, for him sex > is one of the > most essential parts of sadhana. Sadhana which is > far above so > called "sattvic" upasana of exoteric sects. > > Hope this helps . > > Love is the law, love under will. > A. > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 , Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108> wrote: > > Why do you begin your posts with a number (93)? > > Where do holy men like Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, or > avatars like Hanuman, fit in with your paradigm? They > were married, yet never consummated their marriages. > Were they sinful? Interestingly enough, I had an interesting discussion with the One Head Priest from a Shakta Temple here in KL. His remarks is that, the greatest mistake Ramakrishna made in his life time, is not consummating his marriage. What is the point of getting married in the first place and there after worship your wife as a goddess. From Shakta perspective, he further elaborated that is not right. Well that is his views perhaps. Perhaps too a lot shared his views but have decided to keep their opinion to themselves. After all who are we to question such great soul like Ramakrishna. But he is also human to like us. Dont we human make mistakes? Or many have put him on the pedestral equal that to a GOD that whatever he does is Right? I tends to agree with Arjuna views that a lot of Ramakrishna spiritual practises are either being sidelines or deleted. His people tried very hard to erase them as if it never happen. If you read the Life of Ramakrishna its very obvious. This attitude of denial by the Ramakrishna group is as expected. I was reading a Psychological paper on Psychological abuse in Cults: Study on The Siddha Organisation. About Swami Mukananda [ I do not have the article with me right now as im not at home. If the name spelled wrong, excuse me. I will furnish the full article once im home ] secret sexual liasons with his western female devotees. And also about Gurumayi attitude on many of the cases of sexual molest by the inner circle of Siddha Organisation. Its always this initial stage : Denial and Rejection. So my perhaps question is : When such so called pious or holy man does "mistake", is it okay, because they are equal to the status of GOD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...> wrote: > Interestingly enough, I had an interesting discussion with the One > Head Priest from a Shakta Temple here in KL. His remarks is that, > the greatest mistake Ramakrishna made in his life time, is not > consummating his marriage. What is the point of getting married in > the first place and there after worship your wife as a goddess. From > Shakta perspective, he further elaborated that is not right. Well > that is his views perhaps. Perhaps too a lot shared his views but > have decided to keep their opinion to themselves. After all who are > we to question such great soul like Ramakrishna. But he is also > human to like us. Dont we human make mistakes? Or many have put him > on the pedestral equal that to a GOD that whatever he does is Right? > > I tends to agree with Arjuna views that a lot of Ramakrishna > spiritual practises are either being sidelines or deleted. His > people tried very hard to erase them as if it never happen. If you > read the Life of Ramakrishna its very obvious. > > This attitude of denial by the Ramakrishna group is as expected. This is not necessarily true that they deny it. Perhaps they understand it differently, and maybe that understanding is correct too. I am a member of the Ramakrishna group too, and I forward some relevant posts here with the links (links may not work for you if you are not d to it, hence the actual text. sorry for this being long, but i promise it will be worth it to many): Question in Ramakrishna/message/12615 namaste, it is said that sriramakrishna perfected all existing paths of spirituality - including tantra. the path of tantra includes sexual intercourse as a step of realization. but latter he shuns sex. so does he say that when it is used to get enlightenment it is ok to indulge? i would also like u r comments on osho as a spiritual master. thank u sajith Replies REPLY 1: Ramakrishna/message/12640 Dear Sajith, In Sri Swami Saradanandaji's "Sri Sri Ramakrishna Leela Prasanga", he mentions 3 types of tantric practices - the demoniac, the heroic and the divine. The demoniac path is for those who have little self control - for them tantra prescribes absolute abstinence from contact with women (opposite sex). The Heroic or Veera is for those who have good self control. To them, tantra prescribes overcoming sexual urge through controlled sexual enjoyment. The divine, the highest of the three, is for the highly advanced aspirant, who has little body consciousness, hence the aspirant has advanced far beyond any form of sexual act. He meditates on Divine Mother according to the prescribed tantra rituals and realizes union of Siva and Sakti. Hence, you find that the so-called much publicised sex in Tantra, comes only in the "middle-path" so to say, namely the heroic. It is totally absent in the highest and lowest paths - the divine as well as the demoniac. Sri Ramakrishna followed the Divine method. It is said that even Bhairavi Brahmani, his Tantric Guru, was not advanced enough to follow the Divine method, and she was amazed when Sri Ramakrishna perfected this Tantric method. Just as with Tota Puri, Sri Ramakrishna became the Guru of his Guru Bhairavi Brahmani as well. I have noted this down from my memory of Saradanandaji's masterpiece. Please bear with any lapses. With prayers, Nikhil. REPLY 2: Ramakrishna/message/12648 Dear Brother Nikhil, Thank you for the interesting post. We must also remember that after observing Sri Ramakrishna go into spontaneous samadhi while undergoing a very difficult tantric sadhana that Bhairavi Brahmani became very sure about the divinity of Sri Ramakrishna. It was after this that she started propagating that Sri Ramakrishna was an Avatar. Tantra is an essential part of Hindu worship today. The Yantras and the Mantras we use in worship today come from tantric roots. There is an excellent article on Tantra by Revered Swami Madhavanandaji in a collection of articles published by the Ramakrishna Institute of Culture, Kolkata. Like all other spiritual paths tantra too requires intense personal purity. Some of the controversial practices were actually tests for sadhaks. These tests on Buddhist monks percolated down to the householder tantrics with disastrous consequences. This was the case also in pre Ramakrishna Bengal. In "Mayer Padaprante" Part 3, Holy Mother is quoted as saying, "Sri Chaitanya would have sufficed for Kali Yuga had not people started practicing with women. It was to rout such practices that Thakur had to come." I think this statement of Holy Mother will put Thakur's tantra sadhana in its proper perspective. Thakur came to purify tantra and give it back its high spiritual pedestal. Regards, Jagannath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 OOPS! disclaimer: These are the views of some members of the Ramakrishna , not necessarily of the group per se, or of the Ramakrishna mission. take it only if it helps you...... , "manoj_menon" <ammademon@g...> wrote: > , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...> wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I had an interesting discussion with the One > > Head Priest from a Shakta Temple here in KL. His remarks is that, > > the greatest mistake Ramakrishna made in his life time, is not > > consummating his marriage. What is the point of getting married in > > the first place and there after worship your wife as a goddess. From > > Shakta perspective, he further elaborated that is not right. Well > > that is his views perhaps. Perhaps too a lot shared his views but > > have decided to keep their opinion to themselves. After all who are > > we to question such great soul like Ramakrishna. But he is also > > human to like us. Dont we human make mistakes? Or many have put him > > on the pedestral equal that to a GOD that whatever he does is Right? > > > > I tends to agree with Arjuna views that a lot of Ramakrishna > > spiritual practises are either being sidelines or deleted. His > > people tried very hard to erase them as if it never happen. If you > > read the Life of Ramakrishna its very obvious. > > > > This attitude of denial by the Ramakrishna group is as expected. > > This is not necessarily true that they deny it. Perhaps they > understand it differently, and maybe that understanding is correct > too. I am a member of the Ramakrishna group too, and I forward some > relevant posts here with the links (links may not work for you if you > are not d to it, hence the actual text. sorry for this being > long, but i promise it will be worth it to many): Question in Ramakrishna/message/12615 > namaste, it is said that sriramakrishna perfected all existing paths > of spirituality - including tantra. the path of tantra includes sexual > intercourse as a step of realization. but latter he shuns sex. > > so does he say that when it is used to get enlightenment it is ok to > indulge? i would also like u r comments on osho as a spiritual master. > thank u sajith > > Replies > REPLY 1: Ramakrishna/message/12640 > Dear Sajith, > > In Sri Swami Saradanandaji's "Sri Sri Ramakrishna Leela Prasanga", > he mentions 3 types of tantric practices - the demoniac, the heroic > and the divine. > > The demoniac path is for those who have little self control - for > them tantra prescribes absolute abstinence from contact with women > (opposite sex). The Heroic or Veera is for those who have good self > control. To them, tantra prescribes overcoming sexual urge through > controlled sexual enjoyment. The divine, the highest of the three, > is for the highly advanced aspirant, who has little body > consciousness, hence the aspirant has advanced far beyond any form > of sexual act. He meditates on Divine Mother according to the > prescribed tantra rituals and realizes union of Siva and Sakti. > > Hence, you find that the so-called much publicised sex in Tantra, > comes only in the "middle-path" so to say, namely the heroic. It is > totally absent in the highest and lowest paths - the divine as well > as the demoniac. > > Sri Ramakrishna followed the Divine method. It is said that even > Bhairavi Brahmani, his Tantric Guru, was not advanced enough to > follow the Divine method, and she was amazed when Sri Ramakrishna > perfected this Tantric method. Just as with Tota Puri, Sri > Ramakrishna became the Guru of his Guru Bhairavi Brahmani as well. > > I have noted this down from my memory of Saradanandaji's > masterpiece. Please bear with any lapses. > > With prayers, > Nikhil. > > REPLY 2: Ramakrishna/message/12648 > Dear Brother Nikhil, > > Thank you for the interesting post. We must also remember that after > observing Sri Ramakrishna go into spontaneous samadhi while undergoing > a very difficult tantric sadhana that Bhairavi Brahmani became very > sure about the divinity of Sri Ramakrishna. It was after this that she > started propagating that Sri Ramakrishna was an Avatar. > > Tantra is an essential part of Hindu worship today. The Yantras and the > Mantras we use in worship today come from tantric roots. There is an > excellent article on Tantra by Revered Swami Madhavanandaji in a > collection of articles published by the Ramakrishna Institute of > Culture, Kolkata. > > Like all other spiritual paths tantra too requires intense personal > purity. Some of the controversial practices were actually tests for > sadhaks. These tests on Buddhist monks percolated down to the > householder tantrics with disastrous consequences. This was the case > also in pre Ramakrishna Bengal. In "Mayer Padaprante" Part 3, Holy > Mother is quoted as saying, "Sri Chaitanya would have sufficed for Kali > Yuga had not people started practicing with women. It was to rout such > practices that Thakur had to come." > > I think this statement of Holy Mother will put Thakur's tantra sadhana > in its proper perspective. Thakur came to purify tantra and give it > back its high spiritual pedestal. > > Regards, > Jagannath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I think it its time we changed track; snide comments at each other!! trying to gauge the acts of saints and all that. In Shakata lineages ANYTHING goes!! There is n good o eil!! there is n right and wrong!! There is no Karma. (I am speaking of principles) so lets try to reach that - which is another purpose of this group to be supporting to each other in this efort. Not to make side swipes at anybody and everybody. Hope I myself am not guilty *smile* manoj_menon <ammademon wrote: OOPS! disclaimer: These are the views of some members of the Ramakrishna , not necessarily of the group per se, or of the Ramakrishna mission. take it only if it helps you...... , "manoj_menon" <ammademon@g...> wrote: > , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...> wrote: > > Interestingly enough, I had an interesting discussion with the One > > Head Priest from a Shakta Temple here in KL. His remarks is that, > > the greatest mistake Ramakrishna made in his life time, is not > > consummating his marriage. What is the point of getting married in > > the first place and there after worship your wife as a goddess. From > > Shakta perspective, he further elaborated that is not right. Well > > that is his views perhaps. Perhaps too a lot shared his views but > > have decided to keep their opinion to themselves. After all who are > > we to question such great soul like Ramakrishna. But he is also > > human to like us. Dont we human make mistakes? Or many have put him > > on the pedestral equal that to a GOD that whatever he does is Right? > > > > I tends to agree with Arjuna views that a lot of Ramakrishna > > spiritual practises are either being sidelines or deleted. His > > people tried very hard to erase them as if it never happen. If you > > read the Life of Ramakrishna its very obvious. > > > > This attitude of denial by the Ramakrishna group is as expected. > > This is not necessarily true that they deny it. Perhaps they > understand it differently, and maybe that understanding is correct > too. I am a member of the Ramakrishna group too, and I forward some > relevant posts here with the links (links may not work for you if you > are not d to it, hence the actual text. sorry for this being > long, but i promise it will be worth it to many): Question in Ramakrishna/message/12615 > namaste, it is said that sriramakrishna perfected all existing paths > of spirituality - including tantra. the path of tantra includes sexual > intercourse as a step of realization. but latter he shuns sex. > > so does he say that when it is used to get enlightenment it is ok to > indulge? i would also like u r comments on osho as a spiritual master. > thank u sajith > > Replies > REPLY 1: Ramakrishna/message/12640 > Dear Sajith, > > In Sri Swami Saradanandaji's "Sri Sri Ramakrishna Leela Prasanga", > he mentions 3 types of tantric practices - the demoniac, the heroic > and the divine. > > The demoniac path is for those who have little self control - for > them tantra prescribes absolute abstinence from contact with women > (opposite sex). The Heroic or Veera is for those who have good self > control. To them, tantra prescribes overcoming sexual urge through > controlled sexual enjoyment. The divine, the highest of the three, > is for the highly advanced aspirant, who has little body > consciousness, hence the aspirant has advanced far beyond any form > of sexual act. He meditates on Divine Mother according to the > prescribed tantra rituals and realizes union of Siva and Sakti. > > Hence, you find that the so-called much publicised sex in Tantra, > comes only in the "middle-path" so to say, namely the heroic. It is > totally absent in the highest and lowest paths - the divine as well > as the demoniac. > > Sri Ramakrishna followed the Divine method. It is said that even > Bhairavi Brahmani, his Tantric Guru, was not advanced enough to > follow the Divine method, and she was amazed when Sri Ramakrishna > perfected this Tantric method. Just as with Tota Puri, Sri > Ramakrishna became the Guru of his Guru Bhairavi Brahmani as well. > > I have noted this down from my memory of Saradanandaji's > masterpiece. Please bear with any lapses. > > With prayers, > Nikhil. > > REPLY 2: Ramakrishna/message/12648 > Dear Brother Nikhil, > > Thank you for the interesting post. We must also remember that after > observing Sri Ramakrishna go into spontaneous samadhi while undergoing > a very difficult tantric sadhana that Bhairavi Brahmani became very > sure about the divinity of Sri Ramakrishna. It was after this that she > started propagating that Sri Ramakrishna was an Avatar. > > Tantra is an essential part of Hindu worship today. The Yantras and the > Mantras we use in worship today come from tantric roots. There is an > excellent article on Tantra by Revered Swami Madhavanandaji in a > collection of articles published by the Ramakrishna Institute of > Culture, Kolkata. > > Like all other spiritual paths tantra too requires intense personal > purity. Some of the controversial practices were actually tests for > sadhaks. These tests on Buddhist monks percolated down to the > householder tantrics with disastrous consequences. This was the case > also in pre Ramakrishna Bengal. In "Mayer Padaprante" Part 3, Holy > Mother is quoted as saying, "Sri Chaitanya would have sufficed for Kali > Yuga had not people started practicing with women. It was to rout such > practices that Thakur had to come." > > I think this statement of Holy Mother will put Thakur's tantra sadhana > in its proper perspective. Thakur came to purify tantra and give it > back its high spiritual pedestal. > > Regards, > Jagannath. 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Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I did not intend to make any snide comments, nor do I think I am guilty of it! it was another view presented for whoever was interested in it. take it or leave it..... i really don't care (viz., no motivations) one way or the other. , sankara menon <kochu1tz> wrote: > I think it its time we changed track; snide comments at each other!! trying to gauge the acts of saints and all that. In Shakata lineages ANYTHING goes!! There is n good o eil!! there is n right and wrong!! There is no Karma. (I am speaking of principles) so lets try to reach that - which is another purpose of this group to be supporting to each other in this efort. Not to make side swipes at anybody and everybody. > Hope I myself am not guilty *smile* > > manoj_menon <ammademon@g...> wrote: > OOPS! disclaimer: > These are the views of some members of the Ramakrishna , not > necessarily of the group per se, or of the Ramakrishna mission. > > take it only if it helps you...... > > > > > , "manoj_menon" <ammademon@g...> > wrote: > > , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@s...> > wrote: > > > Interestingly enough, I had an interesting discussion with the One > > > Head Priest from a Shakta Temple here in KL. His remarks is that, > > > the greatest mistake Ramakrishna made in his life time, is not > > > consummating his marriage. What is the point of getting married in > > > the first place and there after worship your wife as a goddess. From > > > Shakta perspective, he further elaborated that is not right. Well > > > that is his views perhaps. Perhaps too a lot shared his views but > > > have decided to keep their opinion to themselves. After all who are > > > we to question such great soul like Ramakrishna. But he is also > > > human to like us. Dont we human make mistakes? Or many have put him > > > on the pedestral equal that to a GOD that whatever he does is Right? > > > > > > I tends to agree with Arjuna views that a lot of Ramakrishna > > > spiritual practises are either being sidelines or deleted. His > > > people tried very hard to erase them as if it never happen. If you > > > read the Life of Ramakrishna its very obvious. > > > > > > This attitude of denial by the Ramakrishna group is as expected. > > > > This is not necessarily true that they deny it. Perhaps they > > understand it differently, and maybe that understanding is correct > > too. I am a member of the Ramakrishna group too, and I forward some > > relevant posts here with the links (links may not work for you if you > > are not d to it, hence the actual text. sorry for this being > > long, but i promise it will be worth it to many): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question in Ramakrishna/message/12615 > > namaste, it is said that sriramakrishna perfected all existing paths > > of spirituality - including tantra. the path of tantra includes sexual > > intercourse as a step of realization. but latter he shuns sex. > > > > so does he say that when it is used to get enlightenment it is ok to > > indulge? i would also like u r comments on osho as a spiritual master. > > thank u sajith > > > > Replies > > REPLY 1: Ramakrishna/message/12640 > > Dear Sajith, > > > > In Sri Swami Saradanandaji's "Sri Sri Ramakrishna Leela Prasanga", > > he mentions 3 types of tantric practices - the demoniac, the heroic > > and the divine. > > > > The demoniac path is for those who have little self control - for > > them tantra prescribes absolute abstinence from contact with women > > (opposite sex). The Heroic or Veera is for those who have good self > > control. To them, tantra prescribes overcoming sexual urge through > > controlled sexual enjoyment. The divine, the highest of the three, > > is for the highly advanced aspirant, who has little body > > consciousness, hence the aspirant has advanced far beyond any form > > of sexual act. He meditates on Divine Mother according to the > > prescribed tantra rituals and realizes union of Siva and Sakti. > > > > Hence, you find that the so-called much publicised sex in Tantra, > > comes only in the "middle-path" so to say, namely the heroic. It is > > totally absent in the highest and lowest paths - the divine as well > > as the demoniac. > > > > Sri Ramakrishna followed the Divine method. It is said that even > > Bhairavi Brahmani, his Tantric Guru, was not advanced enough to > > follow the Divine method, and she was amazed when Sri Ramakrishna > > perfected this Tantric method. Just as with Tota Puri, Sri > > Ramakrishna became the Guru of his Guru Bhairavi Brahmani as well. > > > > I have noted this down from my memory of Saradanandaji's > > masterpiece. Please bear with any lapses. > > > > With prayers, > > Nikhil. > > > > REPLY 2: Ramakrishna/message/12648 > > Dear Brother Nikhil, > > > > Thank you for the interesting post. We must also remember that after > > observing Sri Ramakrishna go into spontaneous samadhi while undergoing > > a very difficult tantric sadhana that Bhairavi Brahmani became very > > sure about the divinity of Sri Ramakrishna. It was after this that she > > started propagating that Sri Ramakrishna was an Avatar. > > > > Tantra is an essential part of Hindu worship today. The Yantras and the > > Mantras we use in worship today come from tantric roots. There is an > > excellent article on Tantra by Revered Swami Madhavanandaji in a > > collection of articles published by the Ramakrishna Institute of > > Culture, Kolkata. > > > > Like all other spiritual paths tantra too requires intense personal > > purity. Some of the controversial practices were actually tests for > > sadhaks. These tests on Buddhist monks percolated down to the > > householder tantrics with disastrous consequences. This was the case > > also in pre Ramakrishna Bengal. In "Mayer Padaprante" Part 3, Holy > > Mother is quoted as saying, "Sri Chaitanya would have sufficed for Kali > > Yuga had not people started practicing with women. It was to rout such > > practices that Thakur had to come." > > > > I think this statement of Holy Mother will put Thakur's tantra sadhana > > in its proper perspective. Thakur came to purify tantra and give it > > back its high spiritual pedestal. > > > > Regards, > > Jagannath. > > > > > > Traditions Divine > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > for Good > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 , "manoj_menon" <ammademon@g...> wrote: > I did not intend to make any snide comments, nor do I think I am > guilty of it! > > it was another view presented for whoever was interested in it. take > it or leave it..... i really don't care (viz., no motivations) one way > or the other. > > > , sankara menon <kochu1tz> > wrote: > > I think it its time we changed track; snide comments at each other!! > trying to gauge the acts of saints and all that. In Shakata lineages > ANYTHING goes!! There is n good o eil!! there is n right and wrong!! > There is no Karma. (I am speaking of principles) so lets try to reach > that - which is another purpose of this group to be supporting to each > other in this efort. Not to make side swipes at anybody and everybody. > > Hope I myself am not guilty *smile* > > > > manoj_menon <ammademon@g...> wrote: > > OOPS! disclaimer: > > These are the views of some members of the Ramakrishna , not > > necessarily of the group per se, or of the Ramakrishna mission. > > > > take it only if it helps you...... > > Theres a saying here which goes : If you do not taste the chillies, why should you feel hot? Another says : If I pinch the left thigh, why does the right thigh feels the pain? My only hope is that you seek their permission or at least inform them that you have forward several of their messages to our group. Lets take an example okay. My house. You know, that I am a very generous person. What ever you asked I will never say No. You can take whatever you want, it will be okay with me. But still it is just right to at least inform me before you decides to take anything out. Dont you agree? That is good manners. Sophiarealm did just that. She inform the moderators here before she forwarded several of our message to her group. Shiva Org seek the permission of all the moderators before they posted the Shaivam series, an extension from their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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