Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Dear members, I would like to share some info which I have got. Sex can be useful in sadhana only in the following cases. When a male is doing a sadhana to appease a female deity, then once the deity appears in front of him, it shall ask him how he would like to treat her-like mother,like mitr or like lover. if a sadhak chooses to take the deity as lover, then the deity gets into the body of some female and starts luring the sadhak into love act, thereby only the sadhak and the deity recognise each other and not the lady in whose body she has entered. Secondly some low rated deities like yakshinis and mohinis and chetakas copulate with the sadhak and are very demanding. But at the same time they are very rewarding in the lowkik life. But they have drawbacks also. They are jealous of the sadhak having sex with other women and also destroy the other lady as well as the sadhak. to get rid of them is very difficult also. the manifest very fast, but the sadhak , if not fully in control of his senses, shall become their slave and prey. Thirdly some deities are pleased with bali. In such cases, the act of sex is done , on a specific night,star and tithi according to the respective tantra, with a girl who has not lost her virginity and the womb of the girl is placed at the altar on Amavasya. This is the high end tantra which confers high powers to the tantrik. Even the deities are also demanding on the tantrik who resorts to such repeated murderous acts. The deity demands such bali for each and every spedcific power conferred on to the tantrik. Fourthly I have also read of some practises in Africa where sex with animals like goat and dogs and cows are also common. They term it as a ritual of Bhairo- an evil god. Bhairo and Bhairon are different. bhairon is Kal bhairav and his eight bhairavas. Tamsik sadhanas can be more prone to such type of indulgences where mamsa, sex are a tool for fulfillment of the deity's manifestation. But in any way sex is not a crime. But how to make the best use of it in sadhanas is a real question. Sri Vidya Upasana requires dambathyam. This is because the sadhak once initiated should continue the upasena throughout his life and should pass on the same to his son. So a son-bearing is of utmost importance in this upasana. We pray upon Lord Shiva and he is represented by the Lingam(the phallus) and Shakthi as the Yoni. Logical Reasoning Though many doctors say that frequent sex is a common and natural practise, still it is certain that a person who indulges in sex for 3 or more times in a day shall certainly be more tired than the time he was not indulging in sex. This shows that loss of semen accounts for this tiredness. Also we find that the mind is not at it alert best when we overindulge in sex. Here I am in agreement with the ayurvedic and siddha doctors who say that one drop of semen is equivalent to 100 drops of blood. Hence we should also understand that semen plays a vital role in sadhanas and helps improve concentration in our sadhana. Same applies for females also. It is the prana shakthi and should not be wasted. Comments are welcome. Jai Gurudev Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 High end? It is tragic that anyone would believe that any spiritual merit would come as the result of using another human being in this way. It is purely cannibalism. Even without the murder, the descriptions of other rites demanding to use a girl or teen or woman, often with the condition of virginity, as a tool toward such ends are just depressing. Such a sacrifice is to the ego, not of it. I am convinced that there are those who perform sexual rites in another way, but many of the texts seem to speak of the female partner as a necessary thing rather than as a conscious being. Max >the act of sex is done , on a specific night,star and tithi >according to the respective tantra, with a girl who has not lost her >virginity and the womb of the girl is placed at the altar on >Amavasya. This is the high end tantra which confers high powers to >the tantrik. Even the deities are also demanding on the tantrik who >resorts to such repeated murderous acts. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 This is all bull and misinterpretation. This misinterpertationsd are what gives tantra a bad name. It like arjuna said "swayambhu pushpa" means something else!! Similarly the words are allegories for other things and internal meditations. Having taken litteral meanings where they are not intended to be taken as such people do cruel inhuman acts and nothing; just nothing will happen. N siddhi will flow from such acts. Max Dashu <maxdashu wrote: High end? It is tragic that anyone would believe that any spiritual merit would come as the result of using another human being in this way. It is purely cannibalism. Even without the murder, the descriptions of other rites demanding to use a girl or teen or woman, often with the condition of virginity, as a tool toward such ends are just depressing. Such a sacrifice is to the ego, not of it. I am convinced that there are those who perform sexual rites in another way, but many of the texts seem to speak of the female partner as a necessary thing rather than as a conscious being. Max >the act of sex is done , on a specific night,star and tithi >according to the respective tantra, with a girl who has not lost her >virginity and the womb of the girl is placed at the altar on >Amavasya. This is the high end tantra which confers high powers to >the tantrik. Even the deities are also demanding on the tantrik who >resorts to such repeated murderous acts. -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Global Women's History http://www.suppressedhistories.net Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 knowledge is gained through reading and others relating their own experience or related people. When none of us know the truth, it could still hold as good to be true and should not be objected to as false unless proved otherwise. When we witness many strange things happening in the present days, there is a possibility that this could be true. To state if a certain article is true or not lies in proof. I have clearly stated that it is knowledge gained through other sources. And definitely i wouldnt agree that all those being published in the group is out of one's own experience. hence I would also invite the knowledge of those who are related to such incidents or discussions. SR.Rajkumar sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: This is all bull and misinterpretation. This misinterpertationsd are what gives tantra a bad name. It like arjuna said "swayambhu pushpa" means something else!! Similarly the words are allegories for other things and internal meditations. Having taken litteral meanings where they are not intended to be taken as such people do cruel inhuman acts and nothing; just nothing will happen. N siddhi will flow from such acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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