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, Len Rosenberg

<kalipadma108> wrote:

>

> She often chants to me, "Ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma!"

> Nine "Ma's." ("Ma" means "mother" in many Indian

> langages.) Nine is Durga's number. I always get a

> vivid mind-picture of goddess Durga when she chants

> this.

>

> On another occasion, Amma rubbed my chest and chanted

> "rang... rang... rang... rang... rang!" Five "rang's"

> -- "rang" is the Beeja mantra for Fire. (At first

> hearing, I thought it was "Ram," that she was chanting

> the name of the hero-king of the Ramayana.) Then I

> had an image of five red triangles (red triangle is

> the Tattva symbol for Fire), which circled around and

> formed a pentacle! Since I'm also a Wiccan, I thought

> that was significant!

>

> But others have pointed out that Swamis sometimes

> meditate amidst five fires -- bonfires around them at

> North, South, East, and West, and under the blazing

> Sun. So perhaps Amma was suggesting I needed to

> meditate more?

>

 

Dear Len,

 

Its interesting you should say that. A couple of months ago I had the

most vivid dream and I for one do not ever, dream about animals. In

fact I hardly ever recall my dreams, just emotional impressions, not

nice ones at that! Never the actual events in the dream.

 

In my dream there appears to be a field, lots of people walking in

groups. Suddenly a tiger is sighted on the edge of the crowd, there is

no panic from anyone, just interest and cranning of necks to try and

catch a glimpse of it. The tiger whenever it moves, it moves very

fast, almost flows.

 

The tiger "flows" here and there amongst the crowd, still no fright or

panic, no one is screaming and running away. My own reaction is one of

amazement and interest, of the type that involves no hint of personal

danger or fright. Its like, "Wow! He just moved past that lady so that

he almost brushed against her!!" He doesn't look like an ordinary

tiger, the stripes are bigger, bolder and more intense. The body and

head shape is different, more like that of a large leopard.

 

Suddenly he is right next to me, I am still not scared. And then he is

right in front of me face to face and I am keeping really still. My

stillness is coming not from fright but from a knowledge that if a

wild animal is around keep still and don't move. This keeping still

is, within my dream a deliberate move. The tiger than slowly pushes

its face right up against mine and I mean right up, its almost as if

he is trying to merge his face into mine. I can feel the heaviness of

his face against mine. I have my eyes open. Still no pain or panic.

 

Then I find that both my eyes are looking straight into one of his

eyes and then slowly my whole vision is enveloped inside his eye. All

I can see is what is inside his eye….blackness and distant stars. I am

still not frightened. I can still feel his face pressed against mine,

full on. There is also a pressure against the right side of head, near

the area between my cheek and temple. Then I close my eyes and I

think…."he might kill me", he is up in my face for so long…at no point

is his mouth open. When I think that he might kill me (I am still not

scared) I start saying "Ram..Ram..Ram.." at which point I slowly come

out of my dream and am still saying Ram in my mind as I fully wake up.

 

The first thought that comes into my mind when I wake up, and it is

very matter of fact ..is.."Ohh it was Her Tiger" Now the funny thing

is….I never think/visualise Devi as with a tiger! (or lion for that

matter)

 

When I wake up, I am laying on my left side (the pressure I had felt

had been against my face full on and the right hand side of my

temple), my face is not covered at all. My feelings in this dream, if

any were, awe, curiosity and expectation.

 

One of my favourite pictures of Devi is as TriDevi Lakshmi Durga and

Saraswati BUT its without her vehicle...she is standing. It feels to

me as if the Tiger is making sure I don't ignore it!! To the extent

that I was "in" it….I couldn't see anything but what was in his

eye...and I couldn't feel anything except his face pressed against mine.

 

Looking into The Eye of The Tiger has taken on a whole different

meaning here but what??

 

I did post a question to the group as to what Her tiger is supposed to

represent. One person responded that its control of anger. (I don't

think I am that angry a person)

 

Anyone care to comment on this dream or please tell me what Her Tiger

signifies/represents. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong....

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I would ask the Goddess what such a dream about her

tiger means.

 

I had a repeating dream, while I was in college, in

which I would suddenly come upon a lion. I would be

terrified, and run away, and wake up with a start.

 

Many years later (still having the dream), I knelt

before a statue of Durga in the Hindu Temple in

Flushing. I suddenly became aware that all of the

murties were displayed with statues of their animal

vehicles kneeling before them. Durga was the

exception -- her statue had no vehicle. But I was

kneeling before Her, and my given name is Leonard,

meaning "like a lion."

 

The hair rose on the back of my neck, I swallowed

hard, pranam'ed, and whispered "Durga simham aham."

("I am Durga's lion.")

>From that moment, the nightmares about the lion

stopped. I think I was afraid to accept my role of

Devi's vehicle. Very oddly, my sister revealed to me

years later, that she had experienced a similar series

of nightmares wherein she was afraid of a lion! (I

never learned what these dreams meant to my sister.)

 

-- Len

 

 

--- her_asha <her_asha wrote:

> , Len Rosenberg

> <kalipadma108> wrote:

> >

> > She often chants to me, "Ma ma ma ma ma ma ma ma

> ma!"

> > Nine "Ma's." ("Ma" means "mother" in many Indian

> > langages.) Nine is Durga's number. I always get

> a

> > vivid mind-picture of goddess Durga when she

> chants

> > this.

> >

> > On another occasion, Amma rubbed my chest and

> chanted

> > "rang... rang... rang... rang... rang!" Five

> "rang's"

> > -- "rang" is the Beeja mantra for Fire. (At first

> > hearing, I thought it was "Ram," that she was

> chanting

> > the name of the hero-king of the Ramayana.) Then

> I

> > had an image of five red triangles (red triangle

> is

> > the Tattva symbol for Fire), which circled around

> and

> > formed a pentacle! Since I'm also a Wiccan, I

> thought

> > that was significant!

> >

> > But others have pointed out that Swamis sometimes

> > meditate amidst five fires -- bonfires around them

> at

> > North, South, East, and West, and under the

> blazing

> > Sun. So perhaps Amma was suggesting I needed to

> > meditate more?

> >

>

> Dear Len,

>

> Its interesting you should say that. A couple of

> months ago I had the

> most vivid dream and I for one do not ever, dream

> about animals. In

> fact I hardly ever recall my dreams, just emotional

> impressions, not

> nice ones at that! Never the actual events in the

> dream.

>

> In my dream there appears to be a field, lots of

> people walking in

> groups. Suddenly a tiger is sighted on the edge of

> the crowd, there is

> no panic from anyone, just interest and cranning of

> necks to try and

> catch a glimpse of it. The tiger whenever it moves,

> it moves very

> fast, almost flows.

>

> The tiger "flows" here and there amongst the crowd,

> still no fright or

> panic, no one is screaming and running away. My own

> reaction is one of

> amazement and interest, of the type that involves no

> hint of personal

> danger or fright. Its like, "Wow! He just moved past

> that lady so that

> he almost brushed against her!!" He doesn't look

> like an ordinary

> tiger, the stripes are bigger, bolder and more

> intense. The body and

> head shape is different, more like that of a large

> leopard.

>

> Suddenly he is right next to me, I am still not

> scared. And then he is

> right in front of me face to face and I am keeping

> really still. My

> stillness is coming not from fright but from a

> knowledge that if a

> wild animal is around keep still and don't move.

> This keeping still

> is, within my dream a deliberate move. The tiger

> than slowly pushes

> its face right up against mine and I mean right up,

> its almost as if

> he is trying to merge his face into mine. I can feel

> the heaviness of

> his face against mine. I have my eyes open. Still no

> pain or panic.

>

> Then I find that both my eyes are looking straight

> into one of his

> eyes and then slowly my whole vision is enveloped

> inside his eye. All

> I can see is what is inside his eye….blackness and

> distant stars. I am

> still not frightened. I can still feel his face

> pressed against mine,

> full on. There is also a pressure against the right

> side of head, near

> the area between my cheek and temple. Then I close

> my eyes and I

> think…."he might kill me", he is up in my face for

> so long…at no point

> is his mouth open. When I think that he might kill

> me (I am still not

> scared) I start saying "Ram..Ram..Ram.." at which

> point I slowly come

> out of my dream and am still saying Ram in my mind

> as I fully wake up.

>

> The first thought that comes into my mind when I

> wake up, and it is

> very matter of fact ..is.."Ohh it was Her Tiger" Now

> the funny thing

> is….I never think/visualise Devi as with a tiger!

> (or lion for that

> matter)

>

> When I wake up, I am laying on my left side (the

> pressure I had felt

> had been against my face full on and the right hand

> side of my

> temple), my face is not covered at all. My feelings

> in this dream, if

> any were, awe, curiosity and expectation.

>

> One of my favourite pictures of Devi is as TriDevi

> Lakshmi Durga and

> Saraswati BUT its without her vehicle...she is

> standing. It feels to

> me as if the Tiger is making sure I don't ignore

> it!! To the extent

> that I was "in" it….I couldn't see anything but what

> was in his

> eye...and I couldn't feel anything except his face

> pressed against mine.

>

> Looking into The Eye of The Tiger has taken on a

> whole different

> meaning here but what??

>

> I did post a question to the group as to what Her

> tiger is supposed to

> represent. One person responded that its control of

> anger. (I don't

> think I am that angry a person)

>

> Anyone care to comment on this dream or please tell

> me what Her Tiger

> signifies/represents. I am wondering if I am doing

> something wrong....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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