Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect to all . just thinking............... ........ I stop thinking about this long time ago. Look at your fingers : they are all attached together in one hand but they are of different length. Its human nature. I know for sure Guruji Amritananda is not bothered with what others think or say about him. He does what he think is right and for the benefit of many. He is happy. Should we all too not happy with or for him? Instead of lamenting about those people with negative feelings, we should all send positive energy to Guruji Amritananda so that he will be in good health and able to do more for us? You shouldnt get distracted. All these are just a diversion meant to strengthen your faith in your Guru, that if you do have any for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Its my humble opinion that IF you really are a deciple of amritananda Natha - which I doubt - your action is nothing short of Guru Ninda. And hobnobbing with those who abuse your Guru (as you claim) is again Guru ninda of the first order that makes you a patita. All the more so when you heap praise on those who deride your Guru. Whether Guru or not even indirectly deriding an upasaka again makes you ineligible for sadhana and as such somone to be avoided like plague. I do so. Maybe thats why devi prevented me from meeting you when I was in Bangalore. i dunno. NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect to all . just thinking............... ........ I stop thinking about this long time ago. Look at your fingers : they are all attached together in one hand but they are of different length. Its human nature. I know for sure Guruji Amritananda is not bothered with what others think or say about him. He does what he think is right and for the benefit of many. He is happy. Should we all too not happy with or for him? Instead of lamenting about those people with negative feelings, we should all send positive energy to Guruji Amritananda so that he will be in good health and able to do more for us? You shouldnt get distracted. All these are just a diversion meant to strengthen your faith in your Guru, that if you do have any for him. Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 messages like this need not remain in our archive and hence is being deleted. Hope the other moderators agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Absolutely. Thanks Kochu ;-) , "kochu1tz" <kochu1tz> wrote: > > messages like this need not remain in our archive and hence is being > deleted. Hope the other moderators agree. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Ah! An opportunity to learn Hindi insults! Kochu, please give me definitions for... Ninda... Patita... any other good ones? Your Guruji doesn't let negative comments about him bother him. Shouldn't you emulate your Guru? (I know, I know, I lose my temper when I hear horrible things said about Ammachi, too. But then, I'm very Tamasic and unevolved.) Love, -- Len sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: Its my humble opinion that IF you really are a deciple of amritananda Natha - which I doubt - your action is nothing short of Guru Ninda. And hobnobbing with those who abuse your Guru (as you claim) is again Guru ninda of the first order that makes you a patita. All the more so when you heap praise on those who deride your Guru. Whether Guru or not even indirectly deriding an upasaka again makes you ineligible for sadhana and as such somone to be avoided like plague. I do so. Maybe thats why devi prevented me from meeting you when I was in Bangalore. i dunno. NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect to all . just thinking............... ....... I stop thinking about this long time ago. Look at your fingers : they are all attached together in one hand but they are of different length. Its human nature. I know for sure Guruji Amritananda is not bothered with what others think or say about him. He does what he think is right and for the benefit of many. He is happy. Should we all too not happy with or for him? Instead of lamenting about those people with negative feelings, we should all send positive energy to Guruji Amritananda so that he will be in good health and able to do more for us? You shouldnt get distracted. All these are just a diversion meant to strengthen your faith in your Guru, that if you do have any for him. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Salutations! My little knowledge of Tantra and the lives of at least some of the great Masters tell me that Tantra is all about transforming "normal" human emotions like sexual urge, hatred, fear, jealosy etc to paths divine. Great Tantric Masters are known to be completely unconventional and allegations are nothing new to them. Probably, they even deliberately court allegations to keep the less serious away. So why take this too seriously? May be, it's a complement and in any case irrelevant (ninda and stuthi, both) to shakti sadhna... (at least, as I understand it). dhíyo yó naḥ pracodáyāt pranams, sankara menon <kochu1tz wrote: Its my humble opinion that IF you really are a deciple of amritananda Natha - which I doubt - your action is nothing short of Guru Ninda. And hobnobbing with those who abuse your Guru (as you claim) is again Guru ninda of the first order that makes you a patita. All the more so when you heap praise on those who deride your Guru. Whether Guru or not even indirectly deriding an upasaka again makes you ineligible for sadhana and as such somone to be avoided like plague. I do so. Maybe thats why devi prevented me from meeting you when I was in Bangalore. i dunno. NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote: vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect to all . just thinking............... ....... I stop thinking about this long time ago. Look at your fingers : they are all attached together in one hand but they are of different length. Its human nature. I know for sure Guruji Amritananda is not bothered with what others think or say about him. He does what he think is right and for the benefit of many. He is happy. Should we all too not happy with or for him? Instead of lamenting about those people with negative feelings, we should all send positive energy to Guruji Amritananda so that he will be in good health and able to do more for us? You shouldnt get distracted. All these are just a diversion meant to strengthen your faith in your Guru, that if you do have any for him. Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 sampradAyavishvAsAbhyAM sarvasiddhiH 9 vishvAsabhUyiSThaM prAmANyam 10 sarvadarshanAnindA 14 agaNanaM kasyApi 15 sadA vidyAnusaMhatiH 17 ekagurupAstirasaMshayaH 20 PKS > vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so > jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I > enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect > to all . just thinking............... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Dear Advaith: Thank You. Than you thank you sampradAyavishvAsAbhyAM sarvasiddhiH 9 One gets siddhi from following one's own path in consonance with your belief system. vishvAsabhUyiSThaM prAmANyam 10 Belief is the authority sarvadarshanAnindA 14 Non criticism of all paths agaNanaM kasyApi 15 Never ignore any one sadA vidyAnusaMhatiH 17 Always follow your ordained upasana ekagurupAstirasaMshayaH 20 Following a Guru without doubt ===== It is my belief that the intention of the mail was to make us ask what the allegations are and then follow up with explicit allegations. Let us not fall into that trap. lets close the topic here. Adwaith Menon <menonar wrote: sampradAyavishvAsAbhyAM sarvasiddhiH 9 vishvAsabhUyiSThaM prAmANyam 10 sarvadarshanAnindA 14 agaNanaM kasyApi 15 sadA vidyAnusaMhatiH 17 ekagurupAstirasaMshayaH 20 PKS > vikram_vanam2005 wrote:I dont understand why other tradtions are so > jealous/angry about guruji and his contributions. I thought when I > enter this path, all the followers,devotees would have equal respect > to all . just thinking............... > > > Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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