Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Yesterday I was invited into the home of an aquaintance, and there I saw a combination of Hindu and Buddhist art, depictions of deities, and it got me thinking about this. When I think of Buddha, I think of the laughing Buddha that has been so popular here in America/California, a chubby fellow, big belly, bald head. But I have seen other Buddhas that are thin and androgynous. To me, these look more Hindu, or more Indian. Is the word "Buddha" used in Hinduism to denote a holy person? Are there Hindu Buddhas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Mary Ann, Buddhism comes from Hinduism and was a reformist religion that came as a backlash to the undesirable elements within Hinduism, much like Protestantism came from the Catholic religion during the Protestant Reformation. Buddhism was the Hindu reformist answer to Brahmanism, much like Protestantism was the answer to Catholicism's papal aristocracy. Also, as Buddha was a Hindu prince in Nepal and Nepal is the world's ONLY Hindu state (the people are of Tibeto-Burman stock), you are bound to see images of Lord Buddha that look reminiscent of Hindu images. Furthermore, the term Buddha comes from the Sanskrit word "Buddhi" which means intellect. Also, it is widely believed (especially by Vaishnavas) that Lord Buddha was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu, and had the sole purpose of reasserting the authority of the Vedas by fooling the miscreants into following strict Buddhist practices & beliefs of ahimsa and non animal sacrifice during a time when the prevailing Hindu practices were very much degraded. Hope this helps, JANARDANA DAS Mary Ann <buttercookie61 wrote: Yesterday I was invited into the home of an aquaintance, and there I saw a combination of Hindu and Buddhist art, depictions of deities, and it got me thinking about this. When I think of Buddha, I think of the laughing Buddha that has been so popular here in America/California, a chubby fellow, big belly, bald head. But I have seen other Buddhas that are thin and androgynous. To me, these look more Hindu, or more Indian. Is the word "Buddha" used in Hinduism to denote a holy person? Are there Hindu Buddhas? Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 The "laughing Buddha" so popular to Westerners is a Chinese Buddhist monk, known as Ho Tai. He was a penniless drifter, who scrounged up toys for children (reminiscent of Santa Claus?), and was always happy. The term "Buddha" is a title (like "Christ"). It means "elightened one." Most often it is applied to the historical prince of Nepal in the 5th Century BC, who founded the religion, but in theory, ANYONE is potentially a Buddha. There are traditional images of Prince Siddhartha when he went through his renunciate period, starved to the point of skeletal thinness -- quite a distance from Ho Tai! Siddhartha eventually chose "the Middle Way," and avoided both starving himself or over-indulging. -- Len Mary Ann <buttercookie61 wrote: Yesterday I was invited into the home of an aquaintance, and there I saw a combination of Hindu and Buddhist art, depictions of deities, and it got me thinking about this. When I think of Buddha, I think of the laughing Buddha that has been so popular here in America/California, a chubby fellow, big belly, bald head. But I have seen other Buddhas that are thin and androgynous. To me, these look more Hindu, or more Indian. Is the word "Buddha" used in Hinduism to denote a holy person? Are there Hindu Buddhas? Devi Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 I have since learned that the thin Buddha I saw was in fact Kwan Yin in a form specific to balancing the male and female energies. I could not tell that the form was female - flat-chested, though beautifully clothed (it's a painted statue), but the person who gave it to my acquaintance said that's what was intended in that particular figure. , Len Rosenberg <kalipadma108> wrote: > > The "laughing Buddha" so popular to Westerners is a Chinese Buddhist monk, known as Ho Tai. He was a penniless drifter, who scrounged up toys for children (reminiscent of Santa Claus?), and was always happy. > > The term "Buddha" is a title (like "Christ"). It means "elightened one." Most often it is applied to the historical prince of Nepal in the 5th Century BC, who founded the religion, but in theory, ANYONE is potentially a Buddha. > > There are traditional images of Prince Siddhartha when he went through his renunciate period, starved to the point of skeletal thinness -- quite a distance from Ho Tai! Siddhartha eventually chose "the Middle Way," and avoided both starving himself or over- indulging. > > -- Len > > > Mary Ann <buttercookie61> wrote: Yesterday I was invited into the home of an aquaintance, and there I > saw a combination of Hindu and Buddhist art, depictions of deities, > and it got me thinking about this. > > When I think of Buddha, I think of the laughing Buddha that has been > so popular here in America/California, a chubby fellow, big belly, > bald head. But I have seen other Buddhas that are thin and > androgynous. To me, these look more Hindu, or more Indian. > > Is the word "Buddha" used in Hinduism to denote a holy person? Are > there Hindu Buddhas? > > Devi Traditions Divine > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Dear Mary Ann The great term Buddha, in it's real spiritual meaning is one who with the great sense or The Maha Bodha.It was not religious,once.Gowthama Buddha never believed in the existence of Athma.According to his teachings the Maha Bodha was the ultimate.All Hindu ascetics,in the micro sense were Buddhas,because of their great wisdom,which is the Maha Bodha itself.Through this liberal point of view we can call all Hindu Sanyasies Buddhas.Laughing Buddha can be compared with Indian idol Ganapathy,who is worshipped as the giver of all wealth and wisdom by breaking all obstacles.But Buddha is the ever living symbol of real spirituality based on great wisdom and sheer non violence. With prayers to the Great Shri Matha, BabuShivam. Mary Ann <buttercookie61 wrote: Yesterday I was invited into the home of an aquaintance, and there I saw a combination of Hindu and Buddhist art, depictions of deities, and it got me thinking about this. When I think of Buddha, I think of the laughing Buddha that has been so popular here in America/California, a chubby fellow, big belly, bald head. But I have seen other Buddhas that are thin and androgynous. To me, these look more Hindu, or more Indian. Is the word "Buddha" used in Hinduism to denote a holy person? Are there Hindu Buddhas? Visit your group "" on the web. Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Thank you for sharing this. I love it, and I have felt that it must be so, though I can see how it is a "liberal" viewpoint , T R babu <babushivam> wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 , "Mary Ann" <buttercookie61> wrote: > > I have since learned that the thin Buddha I saw was in fact Kwan Yin > in a form specific to balancing the male and female energies. I > could not tell that the form was female - flat-chested, though > beautifully clothed (it's a painted statue), but the person who gave > it to my acquaintance said that's what was intended in that > particular figure. > Somewhere in the Shakti Sadhana Homepage : Photo Gallery I have a collection of Tara and Kuan Yin. In one of the pics, Kuan Yin is almost male like. I read somewhere [ nooooo! I post this article sometime looooooooong ago ] that Kuan Yin is initially a male, over a period of time, she got transform into a female figure. This pic depicts the transformation process. It is also said that some would like to equate Kuan Yin with Visnu. Having the ability to transform from Male to Female and vice versa. Saundarya-Lahari 5 haris tvAm ArAdhya pranata-jana-saubhAgya-jananim purA nAri bhUtva Pura-ripum api Ksobham anayat; smaro'pi tvAm natvA rati-nayana-lehyene vapusA muninAm apy antah prabhavati hi mohAya mahatAm Adoring Thee, Who are the bestwer of prosperity on all Thy votaries, Hari [ Visnu ] was able to become a chariming female and stir waves of passion in the minds of no less a Deity than Hara, the Destroyer of the Three Cities. And Smara [Cupid, the god of love] through Thy adoration got a form- a veritable feast for the eyes of his consort rati -, with which he has become capable of causing deep infatuation even in the minds of sages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 That is interesting - thanks Nora! I have also read (recently) that Kwan Yin is the female counterpart to Avalokitaswara, a male deity that is, well, "Christ-like" in being all about compassionate suffering for others. He is a thin Buddha. > , "Mary Ann" > <buttercookie61> wrote: > > > > I have since learned that the thin Buddha I saw was in fact Kwan Yin > > in a form specific to balancing the male and female energies. I > > could not tell that the form was female - flat-chested, though > > beautifully clothed (it's a painted statue), but the person who gave > > it to my acquaintance said that's what was intended in that > > particular figure. > > > > > Somewhere in the Shakti Sadhana Homepage : Photo Gallery I have a > collection of Tara and Kuan Yin. In one of the pics, Kuan Yin is > almost male like. I read somewhere [ nooooo! I post this article > sometime looooooooong ago ] that Kuan Yin is initially a male, over a > period of time, she got transform into a female figure. This pic > depicts the transformation process. It is also said that some would > like to equate Kuan Yin with Visnu. Having the ability to transform > from Male to Female and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Kwan Yin was a Chinese re-interpretation of Avalokiteshvara, the male Bodhisattva of Compassion. The Chinese saw compassion as a "feminine" trait. It has become traditional to sometimes portray Kwan Yin in an androgynous form; she is often flat-chested, sometimes broad-shouldered, and I have a print where she has a pencil-thin mustache! (But quite frankly, I know quite a few women who are flat-chested and have mustaches, which they struggle to remove. There's a wide varience in gender appearances.) -- Len Mary Ann <buttercookie61 wrote: I have since learned that the thin Buddha I saw was in fact Kwan Yin in a form specific to balancing the male and female energies. I could not tell that the form was female - flat-chested, though beautifully clothed (it's a painted statue), but the person who gave it to my acquaintance said that's what was intended in that particular figure. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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