Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 http://shaktisadhana.50megs.com/Resource/Messageboard/SSandSS.html Greetings, all, (93, Arjuna) I've been spending some time contemplating some of the archives, and would like to share some experiences of mine, which perhaps relate to some comments made here in the past. I hope I do not offend as I have no formal initiation or source to cite, but my own experimentation and experience of what I consider Holy, Holy, Holy .... *gongs* I think I may have some examples which y'all may find useful (or at least of purient interest, hehe). Certainly I am open discussion with any who wish more details, but here I will try to be concise so as not to take up too much space in case this is out of order. DB said: Reference to Guruji Amritananda's teaching about the yoni-lingam, to which I'd add (from an unpublished conversation) that the image is rooted in "ancient Sakta fertility cults." According to Amritaji, the yoni-lingam (he was speaking in particular of the image at the center of Devipuram's Kamakhya temple, but the interpretation applies equally to all such images) has an even more esoteric meaning than the one Lili mentions: "On face value it is the image of a lingam in union with a yoni, the male principle penetrating the female." The deeper esoteric (i.e., initiatory) meaning, however, is that "the lingam is actually emerging from the yoni. In other words, what one is viewing from the exoteric perspective as the God and Goddess in union, is -- from the esoteric perspective -- the Goddess's own lingam." This teaching, of course, would mirror the Sri Vidya view that the ritual of maithuna, esoteric enough in itself, is actually symbolic of a deeper state of total identification of the Deity within the self. ..... I have an ongoing Working with a fellow I call my Twin. (I've subsequently seen other references to this term though it came to me directly, and use it in the same meaning.) This working is all telepathic, long-distance ... we join in meditation, and, when things are really intense, there is NO DIFFERENCE in our perception ... this was provoked by his desire to experience - to BE - me with Her upon me, my feelings of ecstacy, and it was given to me the method for being two places at the same time (another story in itself - has to do with a vampire alieny thingy who was sorely in need for Her love and repaid me by letting me sort of reverse engineer the path/flow of diving into another being/self) ... I could get crude here, but I will describe this more generally as giving up the fiction of separation, encouraged by an overFlow of ecstacy ... it took breaking down a lot of blocks in ajna chakra which was enabled by moving energy up from the more fire-ey sexy lower "g'tummo" core ... I WAS him inside me and felt his sensation and vice versa. There is no time and space when in this mode ... I am very blessed in that She inhabits me; I am an expression of HEr when I call her in prayer and she responds. ..... Satish Raja Arigela said: 1)Kamakala vilasa, commentary on verse 2 "It may be said that as it is not possible for Shiva to create without Shakti nor for Para Shakti without Shiva, how can She be said to be 'the seed.' To meet this it is said that She is the pure mirror in which Shiva experiences Himself." ..... This is why I call Twin "Twin". Well, I also call him Beloved "For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union." (Nuit, Our Lady of the Stars, AL,I,29.) ... to quote Crowley. It is the negative pole of the magnet which "reaches out" to the positive, to result in the spark I balance the polarities, both within myself and between me and Twin ... but also channel a resonant charge (if you will continue with me on this magnetic analogy) feedback to Her ... it is how the connection is maintained, at least for me, for a long duration ... it is much easier to practice this with a partner, IMO, not to mention much more fun. Maintaining a, um shall I say, high level of attention/focus/energy, becomes much easier. Now remember, I do all this stuff telepathically, so I don't have the physical limitations/distractions, only the effects. As an aside, there are many types of stimulation which can be done telepathically which are logistically impossible in the meatworld ...... DB: There is no doubt in my mind that Shakti and Shiva are One, or the they are two sides of the same coin, so to speak, and ultimately Equal. But Equal means Equal. Thus we may read in the Yoginihridaya Tantra that She is given Shiva's attributes: "Obeisance to She who is Pure Being-Consciousness-Bliss, in the form of Power [key words!]; to She who exists in the form of Time and Space and All that is therein; to She who is the radiant Illumination in all beings." ...... Obviously, I totally agree with this. .... NMadasamy wrote: Satyen Rao wrote : The great Sri Ramana Maharishi was asked by visitor "Master there are so many ways to enlightenment and I feel I suit every one of them. Which one I should take?". Sri Ramana simply answered "Go back where you came from". How right you are. That is what I am doing : going back to the point when this whole discussion begins. To be honest, I have not "graduated" from the yoni-lingam message as yet. I am still stuck with it. All these Maithuna discussion is too much for me. Let me brings you all back to what devi bhakta wrote [ see shakti sadhana and sacred sexuality] : The Shakta view is quite different, as can be gathered from Bhasurananda's remark that Devi is simply Brahman, and "She can create another Shiva at Her will." The yoni- lingam, in the Shakta perspective, is indeed Devi manifesting another Shiva..... ..... Well, I think I agree with the notion that "SHe can create another Shiva at HEr will", too. Since the time when I found I could successfully and consistently channel Her Will ... I have found myself extraordinarily sensitive to contacts (what I call "pings") with many other men (again telepathically), and can recombine the "Twin-ness" with them too. Some have called this "shaktipat", I dunno. It is confusing to me sometimes, as I still attempt to separate the personalities, though I think it all is a Man-ifestation of the same One ... it is still the struggle to forget the illusion of separateness, I think. An interesting footnote ... I have channeled HEr also with women, particularly a shaman friend who needed a quick and dirty synopsis of how to channel the Flow, as she was being probed by another and had no frame of reference ... I was able to put us both in the same time/space/body, too, so as to show her by being me how the Flow could be balanced. This same type of thing I do when healing (do not try this at home!) as I take the entity into myself and neutralize it into the immensity of HEr ... as an analogous sort of thought if that helps. Hey, I ain't dead yet. Love to all, Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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