Lalitopakhyana (felica)

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, "rajeshwari iyer"

<rajii31@h...> wrote: I was only trying to putforth my point of view

but it got distracted. Maybe, I might have used wrong word

unintentially but not out of venom. This anybody could read and see.

But, it was taken out of contest and made to look like a big

mountain out of mole.

 

Still my understanding can be totally wrong - hence I asked panel

what their view of internal Bhandasura. still feedbacks are

welcome - this is only a learning media, we all are here to make

mistakes and learn. raji.

 

 

Okay time out for me. I am aware you do it unintentionally. I did it

intentionally. I wanted to see how far this lead us to. I have just

display to you my understanding of Bhandasura effect. To kill and

drain you out from one's focus. Some people here must have got so

fed up with me. Im trying to kill a very divine discussion. Is

bhandasura is ignorance? Bhandasura is aware that if he dies,

Manmatha or Kama will come back alive. Thus he have this need to

make himself more powerful and conquer all the devas. Even Parvati

goes into Penance and Shiva goes into his ascetics mode. There is no

creativity and thus no life. Bhandasura can also mean unashamed. asu

means life, and ra means one who destroys. Bhandasura thus destroys

life. Destroys creativity. Bhandasura is itself attachemnt. The

attachement of this soul to the body. The killing of bhandasura is

the killing of all attachment. The arrows of bhandasura directing to

Devi, is the arrow of delusion in which DEVI herself conquer each

and every one. One steps the sadhak/sadhika takes towards Devi, She

takes 10 steps towards you.

 

If you look within your own body, there are many energies that may

block your own spiritual advancement. Anger becomes blocking agent

if you allow it to take over control of your mind and your body, the

same with jealously and pride. They all become destructive element.

But if you are conscious of the existence of this energy and

redirect it, it can be like ive said a fuel to propel a jet up into

space. Im looking from what I understand a tantrik point of view. I

do not kill the energy. I harness, tame and redirect it for some

other productive purposes.

 

If you look back at our previous discussion, I did ask : did

manmathan died or he just got transformed?

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ji.

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>Okay time out for me. I am aware you do it unintentionally. I did it

>intentionally. I wanted to see how far this lead us to.

 

Madaswamy, how far did I go in my understanding of Bhandasaura? You tell me.

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, "rajeshwari iyer"

<rajii31@h...> wrote:

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> If someone feels angry that victims of tsunami is

> not getting any aid and they

> set out to do something by himself is a positive quality.

> This anger becomes satvik.

> If any anger to ruin someone becomes tamsik that is what

> attributes to bhandasura.

> this tamsik attitude should not be tamed infact,

> need to be eradiacated...

 

Some further thoughts...

 

This discussion of satvik v. tamasik as a means of describing the

use/attitude of anger interests me as I was reading an excerpt from a

longer piece and was contemplating the very simple tantric meaning of

the following sentences from an excerpt I read elsewhere:

 

"The absurdity is in 'Sakham' A Tamasic like Ketu is no friend of

Satvik planets. [...] Ketu, is a group apart."

 

As an aside, this is so very much what Aleister Crowley's "holy

guardian angel" dictated in Chapter 3 of that treatise of Western

tantrism, the Book of the Law! LoL

 

But I digress! ;-)

 

The context of the quoted sentence:

 

"[of the] Lalitopakhyana, the Rahu Kriti [...] was not a part of the

initial compendium, which we view as comprising of only seven songs."

 

"[...] The composer's intent was to make this a Kriti of the planetary

pantheon, which is evident from "Nava-graha Yutam Sakham" or the

youngest of the nine planets. The absurdity is in "Sakham" A Tamasic

like Ketu is no friend of Satvik planets. Guru's combination with ketu

is known as Guru-Chandala yoga."

 

"[...] Rahu and Ketu are fragments of one entity and are known as the

ascending and descending nodes. They remain diametrically opposite -

perhaps are either end of an axis."

 

"[...] Only with respect to Ketu, the plural or Bahu - vachana is used

- "Ketubhyo namaha" Perhaps, Ketu represents a collection of meteors,

comets and non-planetary terrestrial entities. A comet is called

Dhooma-ketu. Hence, there is some distinction between Ketu and other

planets."

 

"[...] In the Navagraha Stotra, Vyasa is complementary or in awe of

the first eight planets. Coming to Ketu, he says "Roudram Roudratmakam

Ghoram " which indeed, is uncomplimentary. Ketu, is a group apart."

 

from here:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:6E-yypDYJ24J:www.chennaionline.com/musicseaso\

n2k/features/msndikshitar1.asp+bhandasura&hl=en

 

 

My own thoughts on this:

 

For the person living on the land without modern amenities, these are

simple, obvious concepts as common as a sneeze.

 

For the urban person, these things are arcane mysteries.

 

The flowery words used to embellish these elementary ideas confuse

anyone who does not have the cultural context such that they will not

understand these embellishments unless they study them directly in the

literature and traditions of the people who originated these stories.

 

Love,

Felicia