Yoga, sadhana, discipline, method, approach, remembering, seeing: Upaya

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>> I give various methods. You give others.

>> Maharhadanath gives more still.

> I am sorry and i like to apolgize if i gave you and maybe others the

> impression that i give methods.

> Maybe it is because english is not my mother tongue and i am not able

> to express myself fluently enough.

> I only want to share my impressions and feelings and information with

> others on this list.

>

> Mahahradanatha

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya

 

Pranaams

 

I appreciate your gesture and see no reason for an apology. Therefor i do not

accept.

 

'Method' is just a word.

 

An Upaya or "approach" flows very naturally. You obviously practise the way of

Shiva also known as Shambavopaya.

 

What for one person may sound as a method is nothing but bliss for another.

Bliss is however not an impression.

 

Om Namo Namah

 

Ralph Nataraj

Cz.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, "Ralph Nataraj" <108@p...>

wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

> Pranaams

>

> I appreciate your gesture and see no reason for an apology.

Therefor i do not accept.

>

> 'Method' is just a word.

>

> An Upaya or "approach" flows very naturally. You obviously practise

the way of Shiva also known as Shambavopaya.

>

> What for one person may sound as a method is nothing but bliss for

another. Bliss is however not an impression.

>

> Om Namo Namah

>

> Ralph Nataraj

> Cz.

>

 

Dear Ralph

 

i just stumbled upon a few verses in an old manuscript that

containend words to that effect that devi is the universe, which i

wanted to share.

I don´t want to teach methods or any of the other names you put in

the Heading, this is a misunderstanding.

I am not a Kashmir Shaiva i do not practice Shambhavopaya, or any of

the other Kashmir shaiva upayas.

The Nath Sampradaya where i belong to has a very practical down to

earth approach that includes Hatha Yoga and Yantra practices which

would correspond to what is considered the path for the lowest

aspirants in Kashmir Shaivaism: anavopaya,it is not even strictly

Shaiva or Shakta but only a mixture of both.

It does not even have its Origin in one of the 4 Amnayas of Shaiva

Doctrine. Even some muslims are nathas- i am without a caste, creed

or religion *g*

 

Mahahradanatha