Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 ~~ ~~~~ namaste Wissen-One! you honour us with your wisdom, perspective from the ancestors. can you tell us more about the Dragon-Tailed ancient goddess of Tibet? please read the article and see the images at: http://unamity.com/NuWa/ and then you will see what we wish to know -- the connections between Naga, NuGua, NuKua, NuWa ... and between China and Tibet, and the West (Bhutan, Nepal, India, Myanmar, Thailand ...) perhaps you have other Tibetan names, phonetic, for the Dragon and Sun Goddess from 5,000 to 10,000 years ago, or earlier. in the womb of the Great Mother, Millennium Twain ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ In PaldenDharma --- planet_wissen wrote: PaldenDharma, MessiahTwain <yonibluestar> wrote: > > Dragons & Mermaids - Spirits or Goddesses? > > For thousands of years, men have told tales of beautiful and dangerous creatures that > inhabit the waters of the world. But what do we really know about them? Are Mermaids > goddesses or spirits? In European folklore, Mermaids (and more rarely, Mermen) were ************ ************ The Tibetans would count Mermaids to the Nagas, that are beings who are living in the depth of the oceans, in lakes or running waters. It is said, that they (nagas) keep special dharma-teachings, but they still keep them hidden. The upper part of the body of the nagas is human and the lower part is like a snake's tail or a fish-tail.It is said, that they are endowed with great power, but despite having power they do not have generated all conditions which are necessary for the dharma practice. ************ ************ > natural beings that, like fairies, had magical and prophetic powers. Although very > long-lived, they were mortal and had no souls. There's more to the story than this, ************ ************ Also about the nagas is said, that they posses an extensive life- span, on an average aeon during. ************ ************ > though. So many creation myths concern female sea dragons and/or serpents that I feel > that there could be a connection in these beliefs and myths to the Mermaid legends. It > was later, in the Old Testament, that serpents and dragons became associated with the > Devil and Satan - dragons are potent symbols of good fortune in Eastern religions. The > fish is a covert Christian symbol 'ichthys', the initials of Jesus Christ, the Fisher of > Men, and the ritual food - the Christian canon draws connections between Mary Magdalene > and the ocean. Throughout, we see a pattern of sexual tension and mystery. So who are the > Mermaids? > > In `particularistic' religions there are no gods but a range of spirits, from sojourning > ghosts and mortal witches to perennial beings, whose natures and dispositions to man are > attributed by categories. For example, Mermaids and leprechauns are both usually pictured > as irresponsible. Many folktales record marriages between men and Mermaids who might > assume human form. In most the man steals the Mermaid's cap, belt, comb, or mirror – some > object which represents both her magic and her sexuality. If she finds the stolen item, > she returns at once to the sea; but whilst the object remains hidden, she lives with him. > In some variants, the marriage lasts while certain agreed-upon conditions are fulfilled > and it ends when the conditions are broken. Thus the Mermaid's fishy attributes represent > her dual nature, neither wholly magical nor wholly mortal. > > Though sometimes kindly, Mermaids were often dangerous to man. Some legends say that, if > offended, they caused floods or other disasters; their gifts brought misfortune. ************ ************ Nagas are dangerous to human, one better avoid to annoy them. That can happen through fishing or urinating in waters or by polluting the water of any kind, throwing carelessly waste into it, or whatever. whatever disturbes the nagas will cause bad diseases to that one causing, diseases as neurodermitis, skin disease or rash. ************ ************ To see > one on a voyage meant an omen of shipwreck. Sometimes, like Lorelei of the Rhine, they > lured mortals to death by drowning or enticed young people to live with them underwater, > as did the "Merrymaid" whose image is carved on a bench in the church of Zennor in > Cornwall. The Sirens of Greek mythology were half-bird rather than half-fish, but they > sang with such unearthly sweetness that sailors wrecked their ships on the rocks while > listening; this likely gave rise to the popular motif of Mermaids singing men to their > doom or otherwise enchanting them. ************ ************ I am not sure, but I think Nagas are count to the Hungry Ghost beings. It is count to the lower realms of the cycle of existence. Nagas are neither gods nor half-gods, humans of course also not,neither animals or beings of the paranoid states, as modern buddhists in the west call the hells, as it is named in old traditional texts. ************ ************ > > Similar divine or semi-divine beings appear in other ancient mythologies, such as the > Chaldean sea-god Ea, or Oannes, a Merman; sea monsters also occur in panels of Maori > ancestral carvings, and they are occasionally female with fish tails and long hair. Of > course there are many other legends of mythological hybrid creatures that frighten and > fascinate, such as Echidna (snake-woman), Sphinx (woman-lion- bird), Chimera > (lion-goat-serpent), Faun/Satyr (goat-man), Minotaur (bull-man), Centaur (horse-man), > Pegasus (horse-bird), Hippocampus (fish-horse), Empusa (animal- metal), Griffin/Wyvern > (lion-eagle), Barnacle Goose (mollusc-bird), Basilisk/Cockatrice (cock-serpent) and > Mandrake (plant-man). > > The Evolution of the Mermaid > > From the earliest creation myths of Babylon and Mesopotamia about Tiamat, Great Mother > goddesses have understandably been associated with water, fertility, and the moon and its > cycles. Tiamat, the Dragon Queen of Creation, was the salt-water dragon or serpent > goddess of chaos whose death gave rise to the creation of the world. Associated with > Leviathan, Rabat and Tehom, Adam's first wife Lilith was her handmaiden. In Greece, the > similar figure of Thalassa was the daughter of Aetha (upper sky) and Hemera (day). On the > other hand, the Hindu creator goddess Ganga had no form, being half l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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