Guest guest Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 sarvopAdhivinirmuktA : Free from all limitations. [Question] But if both scriptures are authoritative, non-duality is not established [Answer] SarvopAdhi, all limitations or attributes such as, the Mother of Skanda, shadow, and light, etc whatever conditioned or unconditioned. The relation between the qualities and the thing which is qualified is illusory [or false] like the relation of the silver in the mother-of-pearl. To establish the authority of the scriptures as truth-indicating, it must be explained that all the VedAntas mean directly or indirectly one and the same supreme Brahman, which is non-duality. The other scriptures which advocates duality are to be taken as explaining the ordinary vision as we find the same in the science of eclipse where it is indicated [by the words] 5 or 6 fingers with regards to the consumption [of the sun and moon]. So both the scriptures one advocating the duality and the other non-duality, are not to be dealt with equally. Or she is free from the limitations established by logicians, or she is to be known by their real proof [saddhetu] BhAskararAya's Commentary Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 She is devoid of any bases or limitations. Every descriptive attribute is a limitation that produces dualism and differentiation between the One and the many. Therefore, every Sastra that attempts to describe Her must fail to give a true picture. "yato vAcA nivartante: Speech turns back, failing to describe Her." All UpAdhIs are illusions created by Her MAyA-Sakti or AvidyA; Hence she is beyond them. - Dr. C. Suryanarayana Murthy, Commentary on the Sri Lalita Sahasranama, 1962 , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > > sarvopAdhivinirmuktA : Free from all limitations. > > [Question] But if both scriptures are authoritative, non-duality is > not established [Answer] SarvopAdhi, all limitations or attributes > such as, the Mother of Skanda, shadow, and light, etc whatever > conditioned or unconditioned. The relation between the qualities and > the thing which is qualified is illusory [or false] like the relation > of the silver in the mother-of-pearl. To establish the authority of > the scriptures as truth-indicating, it must be explained that all the > VedAntas mean directly or indirectly one and the same supreme > Brahman, which is non-duality. The other scriptures which advocates > duality are to be taken as explaining the ordinary vision as we find > the same in the science of eclipse where it is indicated [by the > words] 5 or 6 fingers with regards to the consumption [of the sun and > moon]. So both the scriptures one advocating the duality and the > other non-duality, are not to be dealt with equally. > > Or she is free from the limitations established by logicians, or she > is to be known by their real proof [saddhetu] > > > > > BhAskararAya's Commentary > Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear DB The Upanishad mantra you have quoted as part of Dr. Suryanarayana Murthy's commentary is from Taittariya Upanishad. I give below the full mantra -- maybe, yuo are interested. Yato vacho nivartante: Words turn back whence (unable to verbalise Brahman) Apraapya manasa saha: Unable to reach (it) even with the mind Anadam Brahmano vidwan: (The one who) knows (realises) the bliss and beatitude of Brahman Na bibheti kadachaneti: Does not fear at any time Etam ha vaa va na tapati: (It) does not torment him (Literally -- burn him) Kim aham sadhu na akaravam: Did I do right? Kim aham papam akaravam: Did I commit sin? The essence is that one who has realised Brahman is not affected by Karma's. Adi Shankara in his commentary on this mantra says that the torment is maranavedana -- death throes when one thinks of whether what he did through his life was all right or wrong and what lies ahead for him. He himself becomes sarvopadhivinirmuktha and that is moksham. Om Namas Tripurasundari Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: She is devoid of any bases or limitations. Every descriptive attribute is a limitation that produces dualism and differentiation between the One and the many. Therefore, every Sastra that attempts to describe Her must fail to give a true picture. "yato vAcA nivartante: Speech turns back, failing to describe Her." All UpAdhIs are illusions created by Her MAyA-Sakti or AvidyA; Hence she is beyond them. - Dr. C. Suryanarayana Murthy, Commentary on the Sri Lalita Sahasranama, 1962 , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy wrote: > > > sarvopAdhivinirmuktA : Free from all limitations. > > [Question] But if both scriptures are authoritative, non-duality is > not established [Answer] SarvopAdhi, all limitations or attributes > such as, the Mother of Skanda, shadow, and light, etc whatever > conditioned or unconditioned. The relation between the qualities and > the thing which is qualified is illusory [or false] like the relation > of the silver in the mother-of-pearl. To establish the authority of > the scriptures as truth-indicating, it must be explained that all the > VedAntas mean directly or indirectly one and the same supreme > Brahman, which is non-duality. The other scriptures which advocates > duality are to be taken as explaining the ordinary vision as we find > the same in the science of eclipse where it is indicated [by the > words] 5 or 6 fingers with regards to the consumption [of the sun and > moon]. So both the scriptures one advocating the duality and the > other non-duality, are not to be dealt with equally. > > Or she is free from the limitations established by logicians, or she > is to be known by their real proof [saddhetu] > > > > > BhAskararAya's Commentary > Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry. > Traditions Divine Hinduism Visit your group "" on the web. Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Dear Radhakrishnan: Many thanks for this; of course I am interested! ;-) Thank you for your own beautiful addition to the commentary. DB , Radhakrishnan J <jayaarshree wrote: > > Dear DB > > The Upanishad mantra you have quoted as part of Dr. Suryanarayana Murthy's commentary is from Taittariya Upanishad. I give below the full mantra -- maybe, yuo are interested. > > Yato vacho nivartante: Words turn back whence (unable to verbalise Brahman) > Apraapya manasa saha: Unable to reach (it) even with the mind > Anadam Brahmano vidwan: (The one who) knows (realises) the bliss and beatitude of Brahman > Na bibheti kadachaneti: Does not fear at any time > Etam ha vaa va na tapati: (It) does not torment him (Literally -- burn him) > Kim aham sadhu na akaravam: Did I do right? > Kim aham papam akaravam: Did I commit sin? > > The essence is that one who has realised Brahman is not affected by Karma's. Adi Shankara in his commentary on this mantra says that the torment is maranavedana -- death throes when one thinks of whether what he did through his life was all right or wrong and what lies ahead for him. He himself becomes sarvopadhivinirmuktha and that is moksham. > > Om Namas Tripurasundari > > Devi Bhakta <devi_bhakta wrote: > She is devoid of any bases or limitations. > > Every descriptive attribute is a limitation that produces dualism and > differentiation between the One and the many. Therefore, every Sastra > that attempts to describe Her must fail to give a true picture. > > "yato vAcA nivartante: Speech turns back, failing to describe Her." > > All UpAdhIs are illusions created by Her MAyA-Sakti or AvidyA; Hence > she is beyond them. > > - Dr. C. Suryanarayana Murthy, Commentary on the Sri Lalita > Sahasranama, 1962 > > > , "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy@> > wrote: > > > > > > sarvopAdhivinirmuktA : Free from all limitations. > > > > [Question] But if both scriptures are authoritative, non-duality is > > not established [Answer] SarvopAdhi, all limitations or attributes > > such as, the Mother of Skanda, shadow, and light, etc whatever > > conditioned or unconditioned. The relation between the qualities > and > > the thing which is qualified is illusory [or false] like the > relation > > of the silver in the mother-of-pearl. To establish the authority of > > the scriptures as truth-indicating, it must be explained that all > the > > VedAntas mean directly or indirectly one and the same supreme > > Brahman, which is non-duality. The other scriptures which advocates > > duality are to be taken as explaining the ordinary vision as we > find > > the same in the science of eclipse where it is indicated [by the > > words] 5 or 6 fingers with regards to the consumption [of the sun > and > > moon]. So both the scriptures one advocating the duality and the > > other non-duality, are not to be dealt with equally. > > > > Or she is free from the limitations established by logicians, or > she > > is to be known by their real proof [saddhetu] > > > > > > > > > > BhAskararAya's Commentary > > Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry. > > > > Traditions Divine Hinduism > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > Relax. Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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