Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha Jnarnava and spooky Islands Dear Ralph Your doubts in honour, and respect to your instructors, but the jnarnava tantra is readily available for anybody with access to a computer and who has done the sadhana of the god of data mining. Dear Mahahradanatha, Thanx. Appreciated. One of my instructors is official Mahamandelishvar. He himself has 24 gurujis. He is an Aghore, guru, master and a mystic (e.g. also teaches the Koran). He is the sole inheritor of the Vamachari Naga Tantra heritage. He was conceived in a tantric ritual. His grandfather was a reknowned - real - tantric master and famous surgeon in India. They have many caves in the Himalayas. And a monastery with some 100 bhairavis - all traditionally trained. In my book Shiva there are some unique photographs. In our tradition and school, you build on the previous incarnation. If i mastered the jnarnava tantra in one of my previous births, why study it again? It is more a matter of remembering or re-activating. 'Instructor' is a word and in fact a dignified word. My instructor warned me for spending much time on internet and in general does not advice people to read books on tantra or to attend forums or on tantra because all the confusion in teaching. A master does not need to show off his knowledge of the scriptures. And a student will likely not become a master by reading the scriptures. The process is very subtle. He explained me again and again that there are students of tantra and tantric practitioners and that they are not the same and hardly share any overlap. A famous phrase from my instructor that i took as a koan is: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." This i just wanted to share. I appreciate your gentleness and generosity. Ralph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 A famous phrase from my instructor that i took as a koan is: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." This i just wanted to share. I appreciate your gentleness and generosity. Ralph. -----And yet, the ultimate secret hides in plain sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dear Ralph, Your instructor said: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." > Ask him to complete this sentence: "When nothing is shared anymore ......" Mahahradantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 IMHO All the great Sacred Mantras were and are available openly but only the deserving get to see them or understand them for what they are. The secrecy is what drove manythings to oblivion. It is that which led to the formation of a lot of unnecessary superiority airs. mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha wrote: Dear Ralph, Your instructor said: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." > Ask him to complete this sentence: "When nothing is shared anymore ......" Mahahradantha Visit your group "" on the web. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dear Sir Your fillin the blank question is cute. Ramanuja climbed on top of a temple tower and recited the ashtakashari in the loudest voice so as everyone can hear, become a vaishnava and get salvation. He was also the first to make pooja procedures in Tamil which is still followed in the temple of Lord Ranganatha in Srirangam, Tamilnadu. Om Namas Tripurasundari mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha wrote: Dear Ralph, Your instructor said: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." > Ask him to complete this sentence: "When nothing is shared anymore ......" Mahahradantha Visit your group "" on the web. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 The sacred is always secret. Tarini Llundrub <llundrub wrote: A famous phrase from my instructor that i took as a koan is: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." This i just wanted to share. I appreciate your gentleness and generosity. Ralph. -----And yet, the ultimate secret hides in plain sight. Traditions Divine Visit your group "" on the web. Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 I would like to add my 2 cents "Sacred is always secret". I hope this is not take literally as if it is then A) OM Namah Shiva B) Gaytatri Manatra C) Navaran Mantra will no longer be sacred. And if thats the case I think we have a situation and the theory is void. Again can write a couple of pages but then, the meaning is already conveyed to the one who can understand. Thanks and Regards Dp On 3/26/06, charu jagat <charu_jagat wrote: > The sacred is always secret. > > Tarini > > Llundrub <llundrub wrote: > > > A famous phrase from my instructor that i took as a koan is: "When nothing is secret anymore, nothing is sacred anymore." > [....] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 When a mantra comes alive, any, it becomes sacred, what it reveals is for the sadhaka only in that moment. This is sacred, this is secret. Tarini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 So true Charu, so true ..... We are all on such a wonderful journey :-) charu jagat <charu_jagat wrote: When a mantra comes alive, any, it becomes sacred, what it reveals is for the sadhaka only in that moment. This is sacred, this is secret. Tarini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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