Kuala superior to vama?

[Guest guest]

IMHO no system is superior or inferior. Each path leads to the ultimate. Only

thing is a person has to travel. Those who speak of superiority or inferiority

are ppl who are not travelling.

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote:

Quite interestingly I encounter a young man who claim to be a kuala

and this is what he have to say "I am a kaula superior to vama

according to scriptures"

 

Does the scriptures actually say that? Any comments?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Isn´t this the same question as with "Chandika" and "Lalita"?

Ugra and saumya?

I think it it is very important if someone wants to be sucessful with

the path he is following that he considers his path is fully capable

of leading him to moksha, he must be content. Only a peson that is

content or satisfied can reverse the senses and disattach from

attachment to the outer sense impressions enter into his own self ,

which i believe is the beginning of all serious effort.

That means to prevent doubt and wandering thoughts, all scriptures

of all path claim to represent the perfect method.

Only beginners have to take this claim serious, if the aspirant

reaches a certain age he may notice that this statement is a method

not a truth.

 

I am at the moment reading a tantra originating from the pascimamnaya

of the Kaula where it is of course said that the western face

tradition is superior, if one looks upon the subject from the

underlying idea idea of shivas 5 faces facing in all directions

uttering doctrines for all the different kind of persons no direction

can claim to be superior, except maybe in a certain sense the

vertical direction faces are special.

 

But the main thing is i think that it is completly irrelevant if a

path as such is superior or not, relevant is if you gain something

that is good for you by following that path. Because all a differnt

there a differnt path.

I bet the one who is claiming to be akula is a christian or muslim

convert or still belongs to that religion (a part time kaula)? This

idea and infighting abot the true path is most often a hangover from

christian upbringing.

Mahahradanatha

 

 

, "NMadasamy" <nmadasamy

wrote:

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>

> Quite interestingly I encounter a young man who claim to be a kuala

> and this is what he have to say "I am a kaula superior to vama

> according to scriptures"

>

> Does the scriptures actually say that? Any comments?

>

[Guest guest]

Nora

Quite interestingly, upanishads describe avyakta parabrahmam using epithets

like avishesha, sadharana etc., meaning nothing special, normal, ordinary etc.

Once we start using expressions like special, superior etc., we presuppose the

existance of another for comparison purposes. But the 'being is one without a

second'. Hence the assertion of ordinariness. Yadaahyevaisha etasmin

udaramantaram kurute; ata tasya bhayam bhavati meaning the moment a person

perceives differences, he is overcome with fear. Here the reference is to

primordeal fear which people like me (ignoramus) suffer from having not attained

gnana.

 

Difference is the essence of avidya. Superior, inferior all included.

 

Of course I have no locus standi on judging different paths. Pl bear with my

blabberings.

 

Om Namas Tripurasundari

 

 

 

NMadasamy <nmadasamy wrote:

 

Quite interestingly I encounter a young man who claim to be a kuala

and this is what he have to say "I am a kaula superior to vama

according to scriptures"

 

Does the scriptures actually say that? Any comments?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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