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Tons of thanks for the info. Every day I learn something new.

When I came to US and I said that navratri comes twice a year people would make

fun of me saying that it comes only once.

 

Then I figured out, its actually 4 times.. so my friends (who do sadhana with

me) made fun of me saying its only 2 times. Then once we all had agreed its 4

times, now its 6 times.. wow.

 

Now regarding the major transasition. You said that it is only 2 times. But when

I came to know about 4 times navratri, I also figured out while all four have

the same power, there is 1 of them that is considered gupt (secret) and should

be used to do very gupt sadhana.

 

Do you happen to have any idea about it..? As I dont know anything more then

that, like what kind of sadhana and other stuff about it.

 

 

 

> Atmiya Dhirendraji,

> 6 seasions are Varsha, Sharad, Shishir, Hemant, Vasant, Grishma

> But the major transition are only two.

>

> Datta

 

 

 

>I spoke about essense of corresponding methods, U speak about appearances.

 

Not at all! I was talking about spiritual practices, not hiking, ballrooms and

circuses.

 

No point in continuing.

 

Max

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Like 'the dark moon' and 'the black sun' in western astrology? Have you studied

or worshipped the Dark Goddess or any of her yantras?

 

HINDU NEW YEAR 2063

Thursday March 30, 2006

All Day

(This event does not repeat.)

 

Notes:

Almost all Hindu New Year festivals fall on the beginning of the spring months

when nature turns bountiful and blesses the earth with fruitful greenery. The

beautiful flowers that bloom in spring, the early bird songs, the fresh harvests

which are the fruits of past labour and the commencement of a new agricultural

cycle. Thus, every colourful spring festival of the hindus, with all the

expectations, apprehensions, hope and joy woven in the festivities, is

essentially a New Year celebration.

 

See http://www.hindunewyear.com

 

 

All welcome to celebrate on KAMAL: May 1.

 

Notes:

The Maharashtrians celebrate Gudi padwa on first day of the Chaitra month. Day

welcome the New Year with this festival, which heralds the coming of Spring. In

Andhra Pradesh, it is believed that the creator of the Hindu universe, Lord

Brahma began his wonderful creation on this auspicious day of Ugadi.

 

 

i fully agree!! Thats eactly what their intention is!! Create confusion. If

anyone leaves the group they have removed one rom the scene and to that extent

they are successful. Hereafter I will put my foot down and insist that nothing

JUST NOTHING not conneceted with sadhana be allowed. I am fed up with these

tricks.

Did u notice that the person responsible for the ruckus has gone completly

silent?? Just watching the fun and laughing?? So lets not make ourselves

laughing stocks and let nothing deter us.

 

Llundrub <llundrub wrote:

 

This arguing is tiresome and egotistical. It reminds me of old school

scholarly Theosophists more than mystics or yogis.

 

Kaula, vama...yada...where's the love and where's the knowledge?

 

This is like talking about food and arguing over purported leftovers when there

wasn't actually any food or leftovers.

 

 

 

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Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:39:57 +0100 (BST)

saffronsenapati Senapati <saffronsenapati

Hindu Kids for sale: 9 yr olds@Rs 8,000

 

 

Hindu Kids up for sale: 9 yr olds@Rs 8,000

Pawan Bali

CNN-IBN

 

 

Posted Tuesday , March 28, 2006 at 13:19

Updated Tuesday , March 28, 2006 at 15:14

 

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WHAT AM I WORTH?: Kids are being sold in Talwara migrant camp (J&K ) by their

poverty stricken parents.

 

 

 

 

 

Talwara (J& K): Rs 8,000 for a nine year old, Rs 10,000 for a 13 year old

and if you can afford a little more money, you might just be able to strike a

deal at Rs 15,000 for a grown-up teenager.

 

These are the prices parents in the Talwara migrant camp in Jammu and Kashmir

are demanding for their children.

 

Krishna Devi has sold her three daughters for Rs 20,000. The girls are now

working as labourers and household maids. When we asked her what made her take

the step, she says it was poverty.

 

"I have sold my daughters. What could have I done? We needed money. It's been

eight years now and we have not been able to repay that money and get our

children back. My husband works as a labourer, but the money he earns is hardly

enough to feed my other two children," a resident of the Talwara migrant camp,

Krishna Devi, says

 

The Talwara camp comprises of over 640 families who have migrated from Doda,

Poonch-Rajouri because of militant attacks. Those already staying in the camp

say over 200 children from the camp have either been sold or mortgaged for a few

thousand rupees. Some of those who were taken outside the state have not even

returned.

 

"It was a deal of Rs 8,000, but we never got the money after working for a

month and seven days. My son's dead body was found as they had killed him,"

another camp resident, Tichoo Devi, who had also sold her son, adds.

 

When the CNN-IBN team questioned local officials about the issue of the

children being sold, they denied such a situation. But the ground reality as was

witnessed by the team was very different and never near to the situation

projected by the offficials.

 

The children in these migrant camps have a difficult option, but it is even

more difficult for their parents. To bring up one child, the other has to be

sold. And it is the cruel curse of poverty that's putting the young lives at

stake.

 

Saving children only to sell them

 

Statesman News Service

 

www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=1&theme=&usrsess=1&id=111080

 

Jammu, March 28. - Hundreds of Hindu migrants who ran away to towns in Jammu

from various parts of terrorist-infested Doda and Udhampur are now selling their

children to make both ends meet.

 

In the past few years, hundreds of villagers left the hills of Udhampur and Doda

Districts to fetch up in such towns as Reasi and Talwara to avoid being

victimised by terrorists who had unleashed a reign of terror in the area. They

savagely killed innocent people living in remote areas, forcing others into

fleeing their homes. Many of the migrants who later found themselves in

Talwara's colony in Reasi tehsil of Udhampur District were now said to be

reduced to penury as government assistance was conspicuous by its absence.

 

Talwara's camp houses more than 640 families who say that 200 children who had

been living there were either sold or hired out for a few thousand rupees. Some

children taken outside the state have not returned.

It was the Jammu and Kashmir Panthers Party legislator, Mr Balwant Singh

Mankotia, representing Udhampur, who made the sensational charge yesterday,

giving the Assembly a list of 14 sold-off children. The House was in an uproar

today as well, the Panthers demanding a statement by the government.

 

In the camp, Kiso Devi said that she had sold her 12-year-old son Joginder for

only Rs 8,000. Joginder died two months after that. Karam Chand, a physically

challenged labourer, sold his son for only Rs 1,000. He regrets having done so

but makes it clear that he had no options. Krishna Devi sold her three daughters

- labourers and domestics now - for Rs 20,000.

Her husband works all right but is, euphemistically speaking, paid

inadequately. In Reasi alone, there are more than 5,000 migrants. Till 2004,

they used to get their food from the state government. Now, to avoid having to

starve, they sell their children.

 

The Assembly Speaker today directed Udhampur's deputy commissioner to visit

Talwara for an assessment which the House would hear.

 

 

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