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Correction: Vimilananda very much considered himself to be Aghora,

and he was a wondering, sky clad Aghora for many years.(all

according to Svoboda)

 

He even claims that an actual incarnation of Dattatreya, (whom he

interacted with in the mountain forests),THE Dattatreya (in the

flesh) was his "senior Guru Maharaj". That would be about the

pinnacle for an aghori, wouldn't it?

 

, Vir Rawlley <redderred

wrote:

>

> Thank you Mahahradnatha. I will take your word. However the 3

Aghora books are readable by a child like me.

>

> mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha wrote: These paths

fascinated me, specially Aghore as I liked the devotion

> for Tara that Vimalnanda showed in the Aghora series, a too the

love

> for Kali shared by Amarananda Bhairavan in his Kali's Oddiya.

> >

>

> Now please do not make a mistake here the Book is called Aghora

but had

> nothing whatever to do with the Aghor Lineage of sadhus

Vimalanada is

> NOT an Aghor nor is he a Nath Panthi.

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Where did he say that?

 

, "ckeniley2003"

<ckeniley2003 wrote:

>

>

> Correction: Vimilananda very much considered himself to be Aghora,

> and he was a wondering, sky clad Aghora for many years.(all

> according to Svoboda)

>

> He even claims that an actual incarnation of Dattatreya, (whom he

> interacted with in the mountain forests),THE Dattatreya (in the

> flesh) was his "senior Guru Maharaj". That would be about the

> pinnacle for an aghori, wouldn't it?

>

> , Vir Rawlley <redderred@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Thank you Mahahradnatha. I will take your word. However the 3

> Aghora books are readable by a child like me.

> >

> > mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha@> wrote: These paths

> fascinated me, specially Aghore as I liked the devotion

> > for Tara that Vimalnanda showed in the Aghora series, a too the

> love

> > for Kali shared by Amarananda Bhairavan in his Kali's Oddiya.

> > >

> >

> > Now please do not make a mistake here the Book is called Aghora

> but had

> > nothing whatever to do with the Aghor Lineage of sadhus

> Vimalanada is

> > NOT an Aghor nor is he a Nath Panthi.

>

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He called himself an Aghori alright, but where did he say he was part

of the Aghori sadhu sampradaya? He was opposed to sampradaya.

 

, "mahahradanatha"

<mahahradanatha wrote:

>

> Where did he say that?

>

> , "ckeniley2003"

> <ckeniley2003@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Correction: Vimilananda very much considered himself to be

Aghora,

> > and he was a wondering, sky clad Aghora for many years.(all

> > according to Svoboda)

> >

> > He even claims that an actual incarnation of Dattatreya, (whom he

> > interacted with in the mountain forests),THE Dattatreya (in the

> > flesh) was his "senior Guru Maharaj". That would be about the

> > pinnacle for an aghori, wouldn't it?

> >

> > , Vir Rawlley <redderred@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Thank you Mahahradnatha. I will take your word. However the 3

> > Aghora books are readable by a child like me.

> > >

> > > mahahradanatha <mahahradanatha@> wrote: These paths

> > fascinated me, specially Aghore as I liked the devotion

> > > for Tara that Vimalnanda showed in the Aghora series, a too

the

> > love

> > > for Kali shared by Amarananda Bhairavan in his Kali's Oddiya.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Now please do not make a mistake here the Book is called

Aghora

> > but had

> > > nothing whatever to do with the Aghor Lineage of sadhus

> > Vimalanada is

> > > NOT an Aghor nor is he a Nath Panthi.

> >

>

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Yes this is correct, I forgot the word he used, but it meant "incineration" -

burn everything that comes in the way of the truth. From reading the Aghora

series, nowhere did I find him "against" anything, including sampradya because

he left everything to his mother Tara, which means he trusted her to guide him,

in which case any pre-conceived notions are not possible. What he meant was

that Truth was more important than Tradition. Tradition is a tool, a path, a

process.

 

Just like Kashmir Shaivism took from many Tantric traditions of India,

Vimalananda took through Maa Tara that which he required from various

traditions.

 

To say he had " > > > nothing whatever to do with the Aghor Lineage of sadhus

Vimalanada is NOT an Aghor nor is he a Nath Panthi" is an opinion, not truth,

based on your beliefs. We have discussed many times here in SS that we each

have our paths and none is "holier than thou", so why are you so keen to insist

that Vimalananda was not an Aghori. What difference does it make to you or to

us. Please explain why and towards what benefit you pick-up this point. I

recall you did it once earlier in my posts. And please do not say that I have

to understnd the Nath or Aghora traditions because, that just shows you are

stuck in the may of knowledge. Moreover traditions can be followed back to a

beginning, so perhaps now is the time the Vimalananda Tradition is born ;-)

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Dear Vir

í only say that Aghor sampradaya is a differnt path from what

Vimalananda taught, though he had gurus they where not from Aghor

sampradaya that he calls himself aghori doesn´t mean that he belongs

to Aghor Sampradaya. His name alone shows this, aghor do not

have ....ananda in their names.

He never said he belongs to Aghor Sampradaya, he is a devotee of

Tara, Aghors are Shaivas they follow a diffferent path.

 

He himself never mentionend as far as i know who his gurus where nor

does svoboda,i think he doesn´t mention his Gurus or his Sampradaya

openly because he is opposed to the implications of an identification

with a traditional sampradaya which can indeed be very devastating.

 

I only mentionend this for your benefit so that you do not seek from

aghor or nath sampradaya Gurus what they cannot give, but look in

another direction. But if you prefer to associate Svoboda with Aghor

or Nath sampradaya i have no objections you have my blessing.

 

Mahahradanatha

 

Aghor Lineage:

In the 16th century Baba Kinaram, after receiving darshan with

Bhagwan Dattatreya in Girnar mountains, awakened it for the welfare

of the humanity at large and embers hidden under the ashes began to

glow again. In the presence of Baba Kinaram spontaneous relief was

received by the suffering, answers to questions came automatically,

and mind experienced calmness naturally. One would experience the

higher Self merely by being in his presence. Baba Kinaram traveled

far and wide in all the four corners of India and witnessing the

suffering of people, engaged himself whole-heartedly in alleviating

their suffering.

 

Finally on the bank of the river Ganges in Varanasi, he established

his dhuni (sacred fire) and continued his sadhana of service. The

akhand dhuni (continuos burning fire) of Baba Kinaram fed by the

leftover wood from the nearby cremation grounds, and the samadhis

(tombs) of all the siddhas of the lineage in the same compound, are

witness to the continuum of this intact lineage of Aghor Siddhas.

Today, this yoga-bhumi (land of sadhana) of Aghor Siddhas of Kashi

(Varanasi) is called Krim Kund. The recorded history of the Siddhas

who headed the seat of Aghor in Varanasi at Krim Kund after Baba

Kinaram established the akhand dhuni is as follows:

 

1. Baba Kalu Ram (Bhagwan Dattatreya)

2. Aghoracharya Baba Kinaram (16th century)

3. Baba Bija Ram

4. Baba Dhouta Ram

5. Baba Gaibi Ram

6. Baba Bhavani Ram

7. Baba Jainarayan Ram

8. Baba Mathura Ram

9. Baba Saryu Ram

10. Baba Dal Singar Ram

11. Baba Rajeshwar Ram

12. Aghoreshwar Baba Bhagwan Ramji

 

http://aghor.org/new/lineage.php

 

This page has beautiful picture of the incredible powerful kreem kund

dhuni, please vist for darshan.

 

 

 

, Vir Rawlley <redderred

wrote:

>

> Yes this is correct, I forgot the word he used, but it

meant "incineration" - burn everything that comes in the way of the

truth. From reading the Aghora series, nowhere did I find

him "against" anything, including sampradya because he left

everything to his mother Tara, which means he trusted her to guide

him, in which case any pre-conceived notions are not possible. What

he meant was that Truth was more important than Tradition. Tradition

is a tool, a path, a process.

>

> Just like Kashmir Shaivism took from many Tantric traditions of

India, Vimalananda took through Maa Tara that which he required from

various traditions.

>

> To say he had " > > > nothing whatever to do with the Aghor

Lineage of sadhus Vimalanada is NOT an Aghor nor is he a Nath Panthi"

is an opinion, not truth, based on your beliefs. We have discussed

many times here in SS that we each have our paths and none

is "holier than thou", so why are you so keen to insist that

Vimalananda was not an Aghori. What difference does it make to you

or to us. Please explain why and towards what benefit you pick-up

this point. I recall you did it once earlier in my posts. And

please do not say that I have to understnd the Nath or Aghora

traditions because, that just shows you are stuck in the may of

knowledge. Moreover traditions can be followed back to a beginning,

so perhaps now is the time the Vimalananda Tradition is born ;-)

>

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