Need Help

April 8, 2006

Dear brothers and sisters

Past few month unusual thing happen around me. I am Mother KALI worshipper

and surrender myself to HER.

I don't have any guru to guide me. So I create my own mantra (not sure) and

initiated it every day. One day a human

shadow appear in front off me and moving left and right only ( \!/ ). The

shadow always follow me. I told my friend and

asked him to have a look. He told me see nothing. then I close my eyes and

request to HER to show HER image to my

friend. Then I open my eyes and ask my friend to close his eyes. After few

second I told him to open his eyes and look

at location that I pointed out. He said " now I can see the shadow moving

right and left. its amazing". Then I asked my friend

to do same thing at his house. He told me the shadow doesn't appear. But

some of my friends cant see the shadow even I requested.

Some time shadow move very fast. The shadow height normally 7 feet and some

time its reached the sky.

Now I don't KNOW what to do. Please help me .

April 8, 2006

I forgot to mention that Mahakali brings all the spirits out in a place because

her image or practice really liberates in a stroke. Many spirits see her image

and get aware for a little while and then they're off. Yes indeed! I work in an

old jazz club in New Orleans. Talk about spirits coming out of the woodwork. I

brought in an icon of Mahakali and a blessed Ganesha yantra and it was quite

unusual. You would be surprised at the merit spirits get by touching holy items.

Did you recently acquire an icon?

-

chand

Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:25 AM

Need Help

Dear brothers and sisters

Past few month unusual thing happen around me. I am Mother KALI worshipper

and surrender myself to HER.

I don't have any guru to guide me. So I create my own mantra (not sure) and

initiated it every day. One day a human

shadow appear in front off me and moving left and right only ( \!/ ). The

shadow always follow me. I told my friend and

asked him to have a look. He told me see nothing. then I close my eyes and

request to HER to show HER image to my

friend. Then I open my eyes and ask my friend to close his eyes. After few

second I told him to open his eyes and look

at location that I pointed out. He said " now I can see the shadow moving

right and left. its amazing". Then I asked my friend

to do same thing at his house. He told me the shadow doesn't appear. But

some of my friends cant see the shadow even I requested.

Some time shadow move very fast. The shadow height normally 7 feet and some

time its reached the sky.

Now I don't KNOW what to do. Please help me .

--

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

b..

c..

--

April 8, 2006

I have 2 icon of mother kali

first standing position -1.5 years

the second riding on lion - 10 years

mantra is use

hum kilim hum kilim kali maha kali

en ennatilum mugatilum vakkilum nitkah suwaha (stay in my thought face

speech)

hum shakti hum shakti hum shakti

-

"Llundrub" <llundrub

<>

Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:19 PM

Re: Need Help

>I forgot to mention that Mahakali brings all the spirits out in a place

>because her image or practice really liberates in a stroke. Many spirits

>see her image and get aware for a little while and then they're off. Yes

>indeed! I work in an old jazz club in New Orleans. Talk about spirits

>coming out of the woodwork. I brought in an icon of Mahakali and a blessed

>Ganesha yantra and it was quite unusual. You would be surprised at the

>merit spirits get by touching holy items.

>

> Did you recently acquire an icon?

>

April 8, 2006

Respectfully,

In my humble opinion I believe it to be quite the contrary. If a consecrated

yantra or image of Mahakali, Ganesh Ji, or Lingam, Saligram etc., are present,

spirits, souls, etc., would not come near that place. They would leave that

place like rats on a sinking ship.

His experience is the result of chanting vedic mantram wrongly. As a result

of this, he has opened a realm and himself up to an entitity/entities as a

result of wrong chanting of mantra. To correct this and make this entity

desist, he needs to chant the Hanuman Chalisa for 40 days straight and

circamambulate Lord Hanumanji's temple during that period. If Lord Hanuman Ji,

be propitiated, he needs to observe complete Brahmacharya during this period.

Eat absolutely no eggs, or any kind of meat during this period. Also, there

are other remedial measures that can be taken such as Chanting of Vishnu

Sahasranamam and Lalitha Sahasranamam, for 40 days. If you chant the Lalitha

Sahasranamam as a remedial measure; as a worshiper of Maha Kali, you would still

be keeping with Saktha Siddhanta (philosophical conclusion). Thus, that course

of action may also be best for your problem, in light of your worship

proclivity.

FYI: One should never, ever, try to create a mantra. Legitimate mantras are

those cognized by great rishis in meditation (Sage Agastya, Veda Vyas, etc.),

and praise stotras/songs/mantras/stutis by great mahatmas such as

Shankaracharya, 12 Alwars, etc. The Brahmastra (Vedic Nuclear bomb that

destroyed part of earth with radiation was a result of wrong chanting of

mantras, namely chanting of one particularly powerful mantra backwards). In

olden times Asuras gained much power by this practice.

My 02 cents.

JANARDANA DASA

Llundrub <llundrub wrote:

I forgot to mention that Mahakali brings all the spirits out in a place

because her image or practice really liberates in a stroke. Many spirits see her

image and get aware for a little while and then they're off. Yes indeed! I work

in an old jazz club in New Orleans. Talk about spirits coming out of the

woodwork. I brought in an icon of Mahakali and a blessed Ganesha yantra and it

was quite unusual. You would be surprised at the merit spirits get by touching

holy items.

Did you recently acquire an icon?

-

chand

Saturday, April 08, 2006 12:25 AM

Need Help

Dear brothers and sisters

Past few month unusual thing happen around me. I am Mother KALI worshipper

and surrender myself to HER.

I don't have any guru to guide me. So I create my own mantra (not sure) and

initiated it every day. One day a human

shadow appear in front off me and moving left and right only ( \!/ ). The

shadow always follow me. I told my friend and

asked him to have a look. He told me see nothing. then I close my eyes and

request to HER to show HER image to my

friend. Then I open my eyes and ask my friend to close his eyes. After few

second I told him to open his eyes and look

at location that I pointed out. He said " now I can see the shadow moving

right and left. its amazing". Then I asked my friend

to do same thing at his house. He told me the shadow doesn't appear. But

some of my friends cant see the shadow even I requested.

Some time shadow move very fast. The shadow height normally 7 feet and some

time its reached the sky.

Now I don't KNOW what to do. Please help me .

--

a.. Visit your group "" on the web.

b..

c..

--

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April 8, 2006

Ignore the shadow.

Devatha's do not generally appear as shadows. It is something else.

Do not use Bija mantras in your self-made mantras....drop all the

hum, kilium etc. Better, drop your self-made mantra all together. Do

not ever chant swAhA in a mantra unless it is a "legitimate" (given

by a sage) mantra. SwAhA means to sacrifice....in essense you might

be (might be, as I do not know how that spirit is going to take it)

telling someone/something to occupy your mind, speech and face. It

is more like paying a black magician to put a hex/curse on yourself.

Get advise from a gifted seer. If it is not possible right now, just

stop praying with that mantra. Just do a deepam, dhoopam and a

simple prayer. Try to get in touch with a shakthi/Devi upasaka or

Hanuman upasaka.

One good thing is, someone arrives when you pray.....but need to

channellize the energy properly. Or anything and everything that

senses a spiritually active mind will come to your home. Results may

not be desirable. Seeing something is one thing, but whatever it is,

you do not want to enter you.

Do you have an yantra at home? If you have one, do not go on

chanting any self-made mantras in your home. If there are dushta

devathas, they will also be strengthened by the presence of yantras

in a home. Unlike a temple, where there are only Good devathas,

homes have both good and bad. Generally it is the good who are

stronger than the bad in homes. But sometimes (I was told 3% of the

time, as said by a seer) that it is the other way around.

Do not install a kalasam of water etc, at this stage either. If

someone tells you to do a homam etc in your home, wait until you

know what is happening.

I see you are a Tamil, if there is an ellaiamman kovil near by,

arrange for a pongal/archana. Do not tell anyone why you are doing

it. Stop refering that shadow to all your friends. Do not ask your

friends to experiment in their homes.

The reason some other friends did not see it because their spiritual

conditioning is different. May be there are not able to see it or it

was scared away by their presence...who knows.

All the best in finding the answers.

, "chand" <chandran_mhs

wrote:

>

> I have 2 icon of mother kali

> first standing position -1.5 years

> the second riding on lion - 10 years

>

> mantra is use

>

> hum kilim hum kilim kali maha kali

> en ennatilum mugatilum vakkilum nitkah suwaha (stay in my

thought face

> speech)

> hum shakti hum shakti hum shakti

>

> -

> "Llundrub" <llundrub

> <>

> Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:19 PM

> Re: Need Help

>

> >I forgot to mention that Mahakali brings all the spirits out in a

place

> >because her image or practice really liberates in a stroke. Many

spirits

> >see her image and get aware for a little while and then they're

off. Yes

> >indeed! I work in an old jazz club in New Orleans. Talk about

spirits

> >coming out of the woodwork. I brought in an icon of Mahakali and

a blessed

> >Ganesha yantra and it was quite unusual. You would be surprised

at the

> >merit spirits get by touching holy items.

> >

> > Did you recently acquire an icon?

> >

>

April 8, 2006

Well, sure, spirits leave the area, but often they are drawn to it first. The

local spirits and pitris do come out right at instalment of a Kali icon. Then

the area can clear. It's not like for Mahakali there is some spirit somewhere

outside of her.

But the fact that icons already existed in that spot sort of disproves what I

said. It was just an option to be considered. I personally don't like to think

that Ma can steer someone wrong even if they do a sadhana or something poorly,

when devotion is present.

I think Ma can instantly cut through all the nonsense, and She just may now that

things have been brought out. It is possible that when people bring these

problems up before this whole group that our attention makes some changes. Or so

quantum physics would have us believe, if just not common good mystical sense.

-

Janardana Dasa

Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:30 AM