Guest guest Posted September 29, 1999 Report Share Posted September 29, 1999 I'm fairly new to Ashtanga and was wondering if there are specific meditation and pranayama techniques used in this system. I haven't seen any mention of them in Yoga Mala or Power Yoga. What about puja, or other practices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 the father of ashtangayoga, sri patanajali offers many meditation seeds and one pranayama techinque. in his analysis of the practical aspect of the yogfa, ie the eight limbs, he devotes most sapce to yama and niyama and then to pranayama, just a sutra each for the three aspects of meditation, three for asana, and five for pranayama. pranayama is the key practice in ashtangayoga, which leads directly and seamlessly to meditation, and must be prepared for by asana which in establishing "joyful steadiness in the body free from tension embodies the infinite beyond duality". this, obviously, takes time as the body is so full of tensions that uphold the dualistic presentiments of leftright frontback topbottom centreperipehry outsideinside idapingala hatha etc. when these dualities in the body are transcended the duality of the breath can be transcended. when the duality of the breath is transcended the duality of the mind begins to be undermined. by paying attention to the dualistic activity of the mind (not trying to block its activity and hold it still) its projective mechanisms are revealed and transcended. this is meditation as defined by patanjali in sutras III: 1 - III:4. pratyaya (III.2) is the impulse that triggers projective fluctuations. samyama III.4 is meditation. dhyana is then further explained in III:12, and samadhi in III.10&11 and also the aspects of samadhi in I.41-46. III.10 describes the key state of surrender. ashtangayoga is the way of surrender. not control or manipulation. the sanskrit word for surrender is nirodah. this is made up of the stem rodah meaning restrain and the prefix ni signifying absence or negation ie. not restraining, in an active sense being surrendering. this has been perennialy misunderstood by academics and practitioners alike having nothing other than their dualistic minds to project onto patanjalis transcendentalawarness (khyati.viveka) (IV.29) with. the methodology of surrender is yama and niyama. the arena of surrender is asana and pranayama, the process of surrender is pratyahara, dharana, dhyana and samadhi. the state of being surrendered is kaivalya which occurs in the lucidity beyond the most subtle (I.47-I.51) projections of the mind that have been seen through and disempowered in samadhi. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 1999 Report Share Posted October 7, 1999 patanajalis definition of prahayama reads<br>within asana, pranayama is<br>exhaustive interpenetration of<br>inhalation, exhalation and transition<br>which become unhindered and subtle <br>until the duality of the breath is transcended <br>dispersing the veils of obscurity<br>and readying the mind for meditativeconcentration<br><br>what then arises into the readied mind constitutes the meditative seed of ashtangayoga. this is the triggering impulses (pratyaya) of karmic residues (samskaras) that ordinarily trigger unconscious reactions of thinking, feeling, acting that generate more karma. the internalised stillness of the mind generated by pranayama permits this reactive tendency to be supreseeded by revealtion of the projective mechansims whereby karma, attachment, identification and dissatisfaction are sustained.<br><br>exhaustive interpenetration of the breath is the practice that brings this dissolution of projective impurities about. this means becoming one with the inhalation, exhalation and transition, till they become free of all unconsciously upheld and habitually maintained imposition, thereby becoming subtle meaning smooth, soft, fine, consistent and almost imperceptible. <br><br>they first key to doing this is releasing the exhalation from the inhalation so that it can spontaneoulsy fulfil itself. this requires the joyful, nondual steadiness of the body that the practice of asana generates. when you are ready you will start to do it. the call is strong, and when your surface resolves itself down to that depth you will hear it, respond and.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 i'm probably not the best at advice here, except that i can probably tell you what not to do. i am not the best at clearing my mind in savasana, much less full on meditation. sometimes, though, one of the instructors here will end the class with a mini pranayama session which does seem to help me get to a more internally focused state. given that experience, i think that the old saw of "do your breathing" would be a good place to start. if you can focus on the rhythm of your breath, gradually extending the duration of both the inhale and exhale, it is probably not a great leap from there to a more meditative state. the other advice, probably unneeded, would be to not try to get there immediately. just like in vinyasa practice, be satisfied with what you can do now and work on gradual progression with your meditation.<br>tell me about rainier sometime. one of my closet fantasies is to go up it someday, despite my risk aversion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 You might try "The Miracle of Mindfulness, A Manual of Meditation" by Thich Nhat Hanh.<br><br>Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2000 Report Share Posted October 30, 2000 Dear Bandawoman,<br>See what happens if you allow yourself to 'meditate wrong' since you say that you get 'caught up in doing it right'.<br>Yours,<br>T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 I'm curious, have you found the mental side of your yoga practice affected or informed by the meditation retreat? What kind of meditation was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 Yes, I'm curious as well. I'm about to go on a ten day retreat myself. Not looking forward to such a long time without asanas, but I was also reassured that the practice comes back and in fact one might be even more flexible. And, it's a great way to really practice the nonattachment to the physical side of yoga. <br><br>G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2001 Report Share Posted May 10, 2001 <a href=http://www.vri.dhamma.org/ target=new>http://www.vri.dhamma.org/</a><br><br>They have free, non-sectarian Buddhist meditation courses offered all over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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