Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 Hey everybody,<br>I'm gearing up to offer a beginner's Ashtanga class and was hoping for input from all you ashtanguys and gals. I've been practicing for just over a year now and due to lack of local instructors have only attended a 10 day intensive and a scattering of classes whilst away from home. I realize I don't have an extensive yoga background and this probably strikes horror in the hearts of purists. But I do have a lot of experience leading groups in other unrelated fields and enjoy sharing knowledge as well as supporting people learn. <br><br>What I would like to hear from people are 2 things: 1) What you think makes a good instructor for beginning students. And 2) What things did instructors say or do that made a difference for you when you first got started in Ashtanga?<br><br>I'm hoping to hear from the purists and regulars of this club but I especially invite all newcomers/novices/amateurs to post what your opinion is as it is just as valid (if not more so). I am grateful for all input (even the Ashtanga Police!). <br><br>Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 RCG, I wish you great success in sharing your astanga yoga experience with others. I hope more people here who aren't blessed with certified teachers follow your example and go out there to "teach" (or rather, share the teaching).<br><br>Perhaps one of the most valuable things a yoga teacher can share with people new to yoga is .... how NOT to hurt yourself with mistaken applications of the practice. Just passing along the ways of proper form and ahimsa to body and breathing would be a great service that I'm sure many folks would much appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 The best teachers I've had were very patient and allowed me to discover yoga. All of them were deeply rooted in the practice and had faith that the truth of yoga would come to me in my practice. As a result, much time was spent watching with some verbal pointers that increased my awareness to different parts of my body that may have needed adjustments or attention. The danger is when a teacher jumps in to correct too early and has high expectations of students without knowing the student's limits. This can cause pain. Information on the breathing, locks, and alignment are invaluable. <br><br>My first teacher was Danny Paradise and he stressed that each student make up her/his mind on when to finish for the day. We can damage ourselves if we work too hard or when very tired. This helped me gain greater self-acceptance and takes the competitiveness out of it right away. We are all at different levels and it is up to us to decide when to quit. This small decision expands the practice into the other realms, other than asana, of the ashtanga system. <br><br>Good luck<br><br>Namaste,<br>Yeshe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 I think about this sort of thing alot because I am also gearing up to offer an Ashtanga class this fall, as a PE course at the college where I teach.<br><br>I have a similar background in that I've been practicing for a little over a year and have has no formal teachers outside a workshop setting.<br><br>The only justification I could give to an ashtanga conservative is that we need to do this sort of thing in order to develop a constituency for ashtanga yoga. If enough interested people demand it, then eventually a "real" teacher will locate in the region or someone will emerge from our ranks who is a position to acquire "real" training.<br><br><br><br>With regard to your question #1, I would propose that enthusiastic but relatively inexperienced folk like ourselves should:<br><br>a. be proficient in primary series (though it is probably OK if one cannot push oneself into a handstand between navasanas, etc.);<br><br>b. be advancing one's own practice (working on second series or whatever);<br><br>c. have enough familiarity with the bandhas and breathing to articulate to students, from personal expereince, the difference between doing yoga and doing gymnastics;<br><br>d. charge as little as possible -- ideally, nothing.<br><br><br>With regard to queston #2: the person who first showed me this yoga (she insists on not being considered my "teacher") was a student of Eddie Stern who has done some teaching for him at his yogashala. Actually, she rarely showed us anything: we were just in the same room with her. As we went through the postures at normal pace, she would whisper these very precise directions ("inhale hands up, exhale fold forward ...") while somehow managing to carry on her own very beautiful practice. Her abilty to articulate the movements in real-time was one of the most amazing aspects of her instruction. She created a real atmosphere of quiet and intense focus.<br><br>Good luck, and let us know how your class goes.<br><br>Peace and Good,<br>Homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 Thanks for posting this question, RCG. I can use the input too. Like you, I live where there are no ashtanga teachers. Lately I have been sharing the primary series with friends and acquanitances who want to learn it. I find that I have internalized so much of my practice that it can be difficult to remember what it is like to be a beginner and explain things accordingly. <br> <br>The best teachers I have had could do just that--remember what it is like to be a beginner. At first there is so much to remember! The general shape of the postures can be foreign enough that trying to keep track of specific body parts can be tough. "Move my hips where? And do what with my knee caps? And breathe? And make sure I don't over do it? Mindfullness? What mindfullness?" I learned very well from teachers who would keep up a fairly consistant (and relevant) stream of reminders and suggestions throughout class. This was also instrumental in helping me practice on my own. To this day, it is the reminders and suggestions from these teachers that still guide my practice. It also helped that they didn't do the postures with the class; they would observe and make individual corrections when necessary. I think that being able to demonstrate a posture is of limited use; it is much more useful to be in the hands of someone who can talk my body into a posture. <br><br>Also, I don't think you can emphasize listening to your body (and taking it easy if it takes a while to be able to read your body's signals) too much. Try to create an atomosphere where it is okay to do beginner's modifications, especially when there are prior injuries involved. (after hearing that yoga was good for carpal tunnel syndrome, a friend of mine made her's worse after doing just a few sun salutations with me--I am so much more careful now).<br><br>Good luck to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 Best of luck to you in your teaching!<br><br>I've enjoyed and appreciated the four posts that already responded to your question.<br><br>I've studied ashtanga for a couple of years, and prior to that kundalini and hatha. So I've studied with approximately a dozen yoga instructors. And as an aerobic instructor, I've been to many other instructors' classes. Yoga and aerobics are very different disciplines, but I've found similar qualities in instructors of both.<br><br>What I've found to make the best teacher is a sincere passion for the practice, a consistent focus on safety, and the ability to work with differing levels of students in the same class. <br><br>As a beginner, I wanted to study with someone who I felt was sharing something they really loved, as opposed to someone who was showing me how advanced/flexible/fit they were. I was attracted to teachers who were approachable, earnest, and led by example (practiced what they preached).<br><br>Starting out, I also wanted to know that I was doing the poses safely. I especially wanted guidance on shoulder stands and other moves that when done improperly could put excessive pressure on the cervical vertebrae. My opinion is that you would want to know how to explain proper technique, how to see and correct improper technique, and how to manually assist people into and out of positions. Before you start teaching, you might want to check into liability insurance. I don't know anything about yoga liability, but it's very relevant in the aerobics world.<br><br>Again, best wishes!<br>Nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 although i am not a so-called ashtanga purist i definitely was a fully paid up member of the ashtanga police breakaway division until i recently taught a workshop in dublin where a huge group of ashtanga devotess has coalesced with beautifully positive energy around one enthusiastic practitioner who has only two tears ashtanga experience. perhaps her prevous yoga and her current iyengar training help, but i came to the conclusion it was down to her really. passionate dedication to her own practice combined with sincere desire to enrich others. trayam hits the main point. ahimsa is the key, to both teaching and practice. satya, asteya , bramacharya and aparigraha would help too. not to mention sauca, samtosa, tapas, svadyaya and ishvarapranidana. thanx again to patanjali for the sound advice.<br><br>this might work something like this. be sensitive to your students capabilities and limitations (ahimsa). be honest about your own (satya). dont try to profit financially by what you are doing (asteya). keep your personal energy field to yourself or youll get snared in others (brahmacharya). dont be possesive about yourself, your students, your time or theirs(aparigraha). be committed totally to their welfare (sauca). be content with the skills and knowledge that you have(samtosa). let your enthusiam burn (tapas).keep a close eye on yourself for any subtle bull(svadyaya). give thanks to the powers that be for giving you such a great life (ishvarapranidana). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 Godfreydev--<br><br>Thanks for your post. Could you elaborate on bramacharya? "Keep your personal energy field to yourself or you'll get snared in others." What does this mean?<br><br>vita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 Hi,<br><br>On the subject of charging for classes I really liked how my first teacher did it.<br><br>He just had an open box on a table by the door.<br>There was a list of how much classes cost ( NZ$7 for one, $15 for a week, or $40 for a month) but he never asked for the money.<br><br>It was totally up to you if you put money in the box, and how much. He never checked, or counted the money or anything.<br><br>It was really nice, because it totally kept money out of the yoga practice.<br><br>Another thing he did was absoutely no beginners classes. I learnt yoga by just following the class. His philosophy on this was that you don't want to think too much about your yoga, just do it, and you will learn everything.<br><br>He definately wasn't a purist, or certified by Guruji, but they were good classes, and I have been hooked every since.<br><br>But mainly because he was such an inspiring guy.<br><br>Also he had 5 classes a week. 5 classes a week ( of which I'd got to 2, 3 or 4) is so different to 1 class a week.<br><br>After going to 5 classes a week for $US 7.00, I've never really been able to appreciate going to one class in London for $US 12.00<br><br>Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2000 Report Share Posted February 24, 2000 brahma charya = all that there is mastery. in practice it means being centred and selfcontained so as to not waste energy. ashtangayoga in particluar generates massive energy. this spreads itself across your being amplifying whatever you got. if you got a big heart it gets bigger, if you got a big head it gets bigger, etc.then you are in effect more exposed to the machinations of others. until you learn the art of brahmacharya. many people come to yoga looking for salvation, looking for a saviour. this can easily be you. if your energy field is expanding but not balanced and selfcontained you can get caught up in this at everyones expense. how to learn brahmacharya? practice ahimsa,satya and asteya on your mat,and in your teaching. be sensitive to yourself and others, be honest with yourself and others. be open to yourself and others. practice them within a devoted, passionate and commited selfreflection. you will then become unpossseive about what and who you are, and noone else will have anything to hold on to. namaste... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2000 Report Share Posted February 25, 2000 i think it's great that you are considering teaching...it sounds like your intentions are in the right place.<br><br>i think for beginners, feeling welcome in class and un-intimidated is important--we're all just practicing and when the facilitator puts out a calm energy during class, it can put everyone at ease<br><br>also, my teachers have read short inspirational messages before/after class and i think it helped me become more interested in doing more of my own reading/research on yoga as well as helped me slow down and set my own intentions for practice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2000 Report Share Posted February 26, 2000 I am always interested in how other teachers teach and your teacher sounds interesting but could you expand on what you mean by "I learnt yoga by just following the class." Do you mean the class was all (or mostly) doing the same postures together or were they all doing them at their own pace? And surely you got some individual instruction also?<br><br>Yours, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2000 Report Share Posted February 26, 2000 At this moment in time I don't consider myself a purist. However I do not think anyone is qualified to teach this yoga after just 1 year. I suggest sticking to your practice for awhile & practising with others. I have been practising for three humbling years now. IMHO you need to understand the internal aspects of the practice very well and that takes time. The outer postures are compelling and for some people they are easy to master. It's the inner posture that is by far the most important. I have been to classes where the teacher is teaching prematurely and this means that the students are not learning true ashtanga yoga. I would suggest studying with a senior teacher for awhile if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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