Guest guest Posted June 4, 2000 Report Share Posted June 4, 2000 In this chapter the Lord explains that the process of the eightfold yoga<br> system is a means to control the mind and the senses. However, this is very<br> difficult for people in general to perform, especially in the Age of Kali.<br> Although the eightfold yoga system is recommended in this chapter, the<br> Lord emphasizes that the process of karma-yoga, or acting in Krsna<br> consciousness, is better. Everyone acts in this world to maintain his family<br> and their paraphernalia, but no one is working without some self-interest,<br> some personal gratification, be it concentrated or extended. The criterion of<br> perfection is to act in Krsna consciousness, and not with a view to enjoying<br> the fruits of work. To act in Krsna consciousness is the duty of every living<br> entity because all are constitutionally parts and parcels of the Supreme. The<br> parts of the body work for the satisfaction of the whole body. The limbs of<br> the body do not act for self-satisfaction but for the satisfaction of the<br> complete whole. Similarly, the living entity who acts for satisfaction of the<br> supreme whole and not for personal satisfaction is the perfect sannyasi,<br> the perfect yogi.<br> The sannyasis sometimes artificially think that they have become liberated<br> from all material duties, and therefore they cease to perform agnihotra<br> yajnas (fire sacrifices), but actually they are self-interested because their<br> goal is to become one with the impersonal Brahman. Such a desire is<br> greater than any material desire, but it is not without self-interest. Similarly,<br> the mystic yogi who practices the yoga system with half-open eyes,<br> ceasing all material activities, desires some satisfaction for his personal self.<br> But a person acting in Krsna consciousness works for the satisfaction of<br> the whole, without self-interest. A Krsna conscious person has no desire<br> for self-satisfaction. His criterion of success is the satisfaction of Krsna,<br> and thus he is the perfect sannyasi, or perfect yogi. Lord Caitanya, the<br> highest perfectional symbol of renunciation, prays in this way:<br> na dhanam najanam na sundarim<br> kavitam vajagad-isa kamaye<br> mama janmanijanmanisvare<br> bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki tvayi<br><br> "O Almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor to enjoy<br> beautiful women. Nor do I want any number of followers. What I want<br> only is the causeless mercy of Your devotional service in my life, birth after<br> birth." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 I have heard this before (at a lecture at a Hare Krishna Temple, of course), that the Bhagavad Gita says that the eightfold yoga system (i.e. astanga yoga) is too difficult for the present age, and therefore Krishna counsiousness is recomended as the only (or best) way.<br><br>To this I have 2 questions, that either you Shrirangc, who posted it, or somebody else, could may be answer:<br><br>1. Where excactly in the Bhagavad Gita is this written?<br><br>2. The eightfold yoga system (astanga yoga) we are following is based on Pattanjali's Yoga Sutras, but these are much younger than the Bhagavad Gita. Hence the curiosity about what kind of eightfold yoga system Krisna is talking about - or does the astanga yoga name/system have much older known roots?<br><br>Your answer much appreciated.<br><br>tt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Herein we find the history of the Bhagavad-gita traced from a remote time when it was delivered to the royal order of all planets. beginning from the sun planet. The kings of all planets are especially meant for the protection of the inhabitants, and therefore the royal order should understand the science of Bhagavad-gita in order to be able to rule the citizens and protect them from material bondage to lust. Human life is meant for cultivation of spiritual knowledge, in eternal relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and the executive heads of all states and all planets are obliged to impart this lesson to the citizens by education, culture and devotion. In other words, the executive heads of all states are intended to spread the science of Krsna consciousness so that the people may take advantage of this great science and pursue a successful path, utilizing the opportunity of the human form of life.<br>In this millennium, the sun-god is known as Vivasvan, the king of the sun, which is the origin of all planets within the solar system. In the Brahma-samhita (5.52) it is stated:<br><br>"Let me worship", Lord Brahma said, "the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda [Krsna], who is the original person and under whose order the sun, which is the king of all planets, is assuming immense power and heat. The sun represents the eye of the Lord and traverses its orbit in obedience to His order.<br>The sun is the king of the planets, and the sun-god (at present of the name Vivasvan) rules the sun planet, which is controlling all other planets by supplying heat and light. He is rotating under the order of Krsna, and Lord Krsna originally made Vivasvan His first disciple to understand the science of Bhagavad-gita. The Gita is not, therefore, a speculative treatise for the insignificant mundane scholar but is a standard book of knowledge coming down from time immemorial.<br><br>"In the beginning of the millennium known as Treta-yuga this science of the relationship with the Supreme was delivered by Vivasvan to Manu. Manu, being the father of mankind, gave it to his son Maharaja Iksvaku, the king of this earth planet and forefather of the Raghu dynasty, in which Lord Ramacandra appeared." Therefore, Bhagavad-gita existed in human society from the time of Maharaja Iksvaku.<br>At the present moment we have just passed through five thousand years of the Kali-yuga, which lasts 432,000 years. Before this there was Dvapara-yuga (800,000 years), and before that there was Treta-yuga (1,200,000 years). Thus, some 2,005,000 years ago, Manu spoke the Bhagavad-gita to his disciple and son Maharaja Iksvaku, the king of this planet earth. The age of the current Manu is calculated to last some 305,300,000 years, of which 120,400,000 have passed. Accepting that before the birth of Manu the Gita was spoken by the Lord to His disciple the sun-god Vivasvan, a rough estimate is that the Gita was spoken at least 120,400,000 years ago; and in human society it has been extant for two million years. It was respoken by the Lord again to Arjuna about five thousand years ago. That is the rough estimate of the history of the Gita, according to the Gita itself and according to the version of the speaker, Lord Sri Krsna. It was spoken to the sun-god Vivasvan because he is also a ksatriya and is the father of all ksatriyas who are descendants of the sun-god, or the surya-vamsa ksatriyas. Because Bhagavad-gita is as good as the Vedas, being spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, this knowledge is apauruseya, superhuman. Since the Vedic instructions are accepted as they are, without human interpretation, the Gita must therefore be accepted without mundane interpretation. The mundane wranglers may speculate on the Gita in their own ways, but that is not Bhagavad-gita as it is. <br><br><a href=http://www.prabhupada.com/bg/versus.cgi?ix target=new>http://www.prabhupada.com/bg/versus.cgi?ix</a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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