Javra- in a nutshell you said it:

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people were being duped. Rather study with baba

hari dass at the mount madonna center or someone

<br>who doesn't pretend that it is a teacher

certification.<br><br>Duped by the words "Sivananda teacher

certification"...: (Some came as a fitness person branching out to

yoga and needing a certificate, some used all their

savings with the hopes of a career change.)I did

acknowledge that this course offer a foundation in philosophy

(which includes kriyas). That you had already been

living there and benefited from this i respect. I

respect the essence of vedanta etc. This is not what this

conversation is about though. YOU were not duped. If they made

the terms clear to others and didn't pretend it as a

certification to teach....hey that would be totally different.

ok with that?<br>.<br>The philosophy is a good

foundation - but is someone after that foundation capable

<br>of teaching this philosophy? The B.Gita itself is so

complex and layered and concentrated ... It is a

beautiful intro though. But an INTRO only. Some agreement

yet?<br><br>We agree that the asana is way beginner level - I

think headstand as the very first <br>pose is downright

dangerous for beginners but forget that. So the asana

instruction does not prepare you to teach either. It may not

even equate to half of 1st series. So where is the

teacher training yet?<br><br>Then there is the part where

they say "register for the training-if you don't want

to stay you can switch to a regular guest"... only

to say that once people want to switch that they

cannot. Fraud yet?<br><br>They do not make the

circumstance available ahead of time (in this instance that

the average attendance is 150 people and that yoga is

done on cement outside).<br><br>What those, who had

thought they could teach and earn some money, found out

is that if you teach this Siv Yoga at a Siv Centre

you do not get paid.<br><br>It gets worse- people are

stuck there for a month -the washer and dryers operated

on double or more of the cost of such services in

hotels nevermind the local laundromat. ($5 for one cycle

of wash & dry).<br><br>So far the dishonesty and

profiteering attitude is a disgrace in my opinion - but you

may not be satisfied. I just want others to have this

knowledge so they can make an informed choice - tha tway

they might even enjoy it.<br><br>Point is if they

presented the whole thing honestly and with integrity do

you think as <br>many people would register? Can you

say this is not an attitude of profiteering and

trickery?<br><br>Now coming back to this website and chatclub -isn't

it too good too be true, BUT IT IS TRUE, that those

certified in ashtanga are world class ashtangis and

teachers. Only a handful of them exist. Certification on

this website refers to a standard so high......it is

rare , what more can i say. That is what i meant not

to dilute the meaning of certification to us by

mentioning a an intro that parades as a certification. The

purpose of that title is to make money. I am glad you

enjoyed your experience .<br><br>chamoya