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Just wanted to give my moral support about

vinyasas- I'm in that "in between" group. I'm past the

rolling over the knees, but can't quite fully lift and

gracefully swing the legs back. <br><br>My theory is that

all you out there who feel you are "stuck" in the

roll-over stage, you really aren't. Granted, the roll-over

stage is necessary to develop the arm muscles a bit

(noodle arms can't lift). But, if you can even a bit lift

yourself up with legs crossed (say, after each nivasana),

then you can start practicing the jump back. <br><br>I

first lift with the bandas, then start to tip over so

that my face moves toward the mat, throw my legs back

and move into chatarunga. Sometimes I am graceful and

the movement feels easy. Sometimes I engage in that

well-known "shuffle" of the toes backward. Some days I can

jump back and jump through with grace and ease. Other

days I'm a shuffling mess. On some occasions I

alternate with rolling over the knees. The point is that I

DON'T GIVE UP. I do vinyasa in between each side and in

between each pose. I try to have "integrity" with the

vinyasa, rather than just shufflnig through all the time

out of laziness, or jumping through only to have my

butt slam on the ground. <br><br>I am absolutely

positive that if I keep sincerely trying (even the past

two weeks working throughlower back pain), then

tomorrow I'll get it "perfectly"- even if that tomorrow

happens a year from now. <br><br>So, please try to give

it your all each day- no matter how tired you are.

It will come.<br><br>Gee, maybe I should think about

employing this philosophy to rest of my life....<br><br>Oh,

and skinnda, I made the mistake of reading through

more than the 500 messages I missed while away from

the board for 2 1/2 weeks. I am soooo addicted. But,

hey, it was a perfect procrastination technique.

<br><br>Gabita

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gabita, thanks for the encouragement. i'm still

plugging away. i've been trying to lift my butt off the

floor with each vinyasa to build the shoulder strength.

i don't think i'm close to the strength i need to

be able to lean forward and extend back. i haven't

even tried to extend back yet. this is one of the

things that i do look around in class for. if i'm near

an accomplished practicioner, i try and watch as

best i can. it happens so quickly though. which did

you find came first--jumping through from down dog or

jumping back into chaturanga?<br>i've noticed an

interesting side effect from all those tolasanas or what ever

holding the take-it-up would be called. i find it more

difficult to do a good virabhadrasana A and utkatasana,

also seem stiffer and less able to get my arms as far

in prasarita C.

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