godfreydev, you pompous ass

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Can you find a medical doctor to support the

following claim? Laproxdoc, do you care to

comment?<br><br><<amaroli/vajroli has always been known to yoginis as an

effective

oral<br> contraceptive. this occurs because the

reassimilation of the urine<br> containing oestrogen and

progesterone effectively inhibits ovulation, in<br> the same

way that the oral contraceptive ¨pill¨which contains

synthetic<br> oestrogen and progesterone prevents ovulation

from occurring. the<br> difference is that in amoroli

these hormones are the body´s own natural<br> products,

and many of the side effects of the synthetic

preparations do<br> not occur.<br> similarly, in the male,

reassimilation of testosterone in the urine creates<br>

¨negative feedback¨ upon the pituitary, inhibiting the

further release of<br> gonadotrophins. as a result, the

further production of testosterone and<br> spermatozoa is

temporarily inhibited. as a result the sperm count<br>

diminishes, although seminal fluid continues to be formed.

>><br><br>Citing such pseudoscientific magical thinking

unsupported gobbledeygook (sp?) is just plain stupid. There's

lots of superstitios writings put out by these

supposed sages. Just because they said it doesn't make it

true.<br><br>Go ahead and dring a gallon of your own stinking

urine. In fact I'd pay $20.00 to watch the spectacle

just for a good laugh.<br><br>You crack me

up.<br><br>espw

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it appears, senor, that once again great minds

think alike. i too (mis)read the posts by godfrey and

interpreted them as his opinions or positions. as he noted in

his subsequent post, "...i have neither experienced,

nor researched the theoretics of, the practice....and

doubt i ever will.."<br> <br>as for whether there is

any science to lend credence to the claims of

hormonal effect from amaroli, not to my knowledge (i'm an

obstetrician). my ignorance does not mean there are not data to

support those claims, just none that i have ever heard

about. with my curiosity tweaked, however, i've got a

few searches going on the medline database. premarin,

the most commonly prescribed estrogen in the US is

made from the urine of pregnant horses. there are also

medicines that are prescibed to encourage ovulation in some

infertile women that are made from the urine of menopausal

nuns from italy (that's real enterprise for you). both

of these products undergo considerable processing

and concentration prior to thier final form.

<br><br>from the Skeptic Dictionary website page on

amaroli:<br><a href=http://skepdic.com/urine.html

target=new>http://skepdic.com/urine.html</a><br>"Furthermore, while it is true

that some of the constituents of

urine are being used and tested for their potential or

actual therapeutic value, it does not follow that

drinking one's urine is therapeutic. It may be discovered

that one of the chemicals in human urine is effective

for fighting cancer. However, drinking one's own

urine is not likely going to supply enough of any

cancer fighting substance to do any good. It is also

true that some of the substances in urine are good for

you. For example, if you are ingesting more vitamin C

(a water soluble vitamin) than your body needs or

can process, you will excrete it in your urine. It

doesn't follow that drinking your urine is a good way to

get vitamin C into your body. An orange or a tablet

might be preferable. However, if you are urinating

excess vitamin C, what do you think your body will do

with the vitamin C you ingest with your urine? If you

guessed that it would get rid of it, you guessed right.

The reason your urine contains vitamins and minerals

is because your body didn't need them or

couldn't<br>use them. You might as well pour water into a full

glass as reuptakeyour excess vitamins and minerals.

Even urea, which can be toxic in very high doses,

occurs in such minute quantities in the average person's

urine that there is very little chance of poisoning

from drinking one's<br>own urine."