Hubris et al...

[Guest guest]

pranama funkybadlady,<br><br>you seem like soul

that needs a listen <br>distactions in class are what

you're not missin<br>'so when yer quick to judge<br>yer

own reflection will smudge<br><br>much

love<br><br>premna<br>irinji

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I find your little poem

patronizing, but I will most likely forget about it as soon as

I turn off my computer. I was simply asking a real

question. I don't have an ulterior motive to get attention,

nor am I judging anyone as you seem to be judging me.

What are you saying, excactly? Disguising advise with

compassion? <br>And you sign 'much love?' I seem needy

because I am asking irreverent questions? I think you

have missed the point I am making COMPLETELY.<br>I

could really give a flying hoot about people showing

off when I am doing my practice - rarely do I let

anything as trivial as that ruin my experience. I have

just observed much hubris in a place where the whole

idea is to practice humility and I think it is curious

and funny. And, I think a lot of yoga teachers are

full of you-know-what.<br><br>And when some yoga

teaching freak pushes his wank into my back during an

"adjustment" after preaching all kinds of spiritual mojo

during class I would say that that is more than a

distraction. And I do judge that as inappropriate.<br><br>So

thanks anyway I don't accept your advise because I am

not the person it is intended for. It would be

selfish of me to keep it, so right back at you.

[Guest guest]

Hi there again. I just posted and then read your

most recent post. If I understand it correctly, then

it seems to me that your anger (if that's what you'd

call it) is about someone being violative---not just

about being annoyed at others shortcomings. There's a

big difference, I think, though there's grey areas

too that are difficult to sort out. However, this one

seems clear. Sorry I missed the mark in my former

ramblings, and I'm sorry that happened to you. Bleh!!!

[Guest guest]

You guys do not get what I am saying. I am not

angry and enraged about other people's shortcomings! I

am surprised that I am getting such a reaction about

all this! I mentioned:<br><br>1. SOmetimes people get

emotional releases and clarity that surprises them as a

result of yoga practice. I have had a couple of

experiences like this myself. I'm not going around in a atate

of constant pain. I'm a pretty happy, easy going

person.<br><br>2. Many yoga teachers and students have different

expectations - they think they are going to be happy and

blissed out all the time and rise ABOVE normal human

experience. I say this is dangerous especially if a teacher

implies that having painful emotions after practicing

yoga is a sign of a defective practice - which is NOT

TRUE.<br><br>3. I am personally not in a tizzy about anything,

just interested in why there is so much corruption and

sexual indescretion with these gurus who cannot live

what they preach.<br><br>4. Many of you are giving me

advise because I have expressed a contravercial opinion.

So what some dingbat yoga teacher doesn't have any

boundaries. I'm not freaked about it. I don't need the rape

crisis center. I'm just saying that there are a lot of

freaks with a lot of personal problems who call

themselves yoga teachers. Who doesn't know that?<br><br>5.

Although I appreciate the "concern" I am just fine and

interested in people's opinions about spiritual corruption

rather than analysis about something I never said in the

first place anyway.<br><br>6. Ms Chodrun has some

lovely things to say and I'm sure she is a well meaning

person. I have never met her and I really don't tend to

judge her. I am sorry I mentioned her in the first

place since it just seems to be confusing

people.<br><br>7. Please don't give me any advise. No one knows me

even close to enough to be helpful in that way and I

certainly wouldn't come to a public, anonymous chat club

for advise on personal issues. I wonder why others

do.<br><br>t.

[Guest guest]

To clarify, I wasn't intending any advice. As a

person who is so unexperienced with the practice, I do

not see myself in a position to offer advice to

anyone. I merely thought your post was interesting, and

was discussing it further--from my experience and

point of view---and from the slant I took from it.

Sorry to have offended you.

[Guest guest]

I think okrgr1 had a good point, people who are

marvelous at their postures might go ahead and think that

their minds/spirits are just as advanced as their

hamstrings. Not always the case! It's like being a brilliant

musician and having crap taste in literature -- genius in

one area does not guarantee genius in all areas.

Except for me of course -- both spirit and hamstrings

are equally knotted up today.

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I wrote my message before I read yours. I

agree with what you said and was not really offering

advice, I just think you raised a really interesting

point, and a relevant one too. I think the thing with

hubris and posturing is especially prevalent in

ashtanga, so we need to be aware of

it.<br><br>Shanthi<br>D.

[Guest guest]

OK! Thanks.<br>T.