Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Okgr, may I absolve u of all guilt regarding backbends... I REGULARLY only do 2 or 3 instead of five. And I find I have a plausible excuse every time. (You can borrow some of mine if u like: "it''s the week before the painters are due, it's the week after the painters have been in, I haven't had a cup of coffee yet, last night I got pissed, if I'd had that packet of Walkers Screaming Salt n Vinegar crisps for breakfast I could've done TEN backbends, that whale music/joss stick/smell of patchouli oil is putting me off" etc etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 yes, i think i'd love to tell tim miller, "hey bud, not today. it's me painters again!" that would generate one of his classic facial expressions. it's hard enough to do something like uttitha hasta padangusthasana without him coming up and giving you one of those screwy looks of his. i break out laughing every time and promptly keel over out of balance, nearly setting off the proverbial falling dominoes cascade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 It is the part of a person that helps them to know what is the appropriate thought or action or feeling. It teaches us and helps to mold us by our feelings associated with its expression within us. We feel guilt often for something we have done that goes against our own emotional morality. Guilt arises due to the infraction and helps us to realize how we have behaved and how we may have responded differently to the situation. How we may have handled it better. Guilt helps us to know these alternatives. I feel these are all positive traits of guilt and that guilt is really a way of teaching with love from ourselves for ourselves and our advancement into greater personal understandings. Allowing another person to inflict guilt is an activity of allowing punishment from one person to another and guilt is often co-opted as a tool of passive aggression for this purpose. No other person can inflict guilt upon you without permission being given from you to them. But sometimes the soul will need this to occur if the moral structure of the person isn't strong enough to make the developmental advancement on its own. So a learning scenario is created or revealed that allows the lessons to be given. Sometimes guilt can be used to help this process along. At other times it is used by others as a control method or as an abusive activity. In these situations both people are learning lessons of power and of love and either one can stop if they truly wish too but for the one " receiving " self forgiveness must occur. For the " abuser " guilt for that action may be next for them to experience and eventually self forgiveness after their personal scenarios of balance activate for their education. It is a teaching process. We must learn to forgive ourselves for the hurts and activities that we partake of that are worthy of guilt. These are most often infractions of an emotional nature. In some way our love has been abrogated and from that injury self worth issues can arise and in our pain sometimes we can do actions that we regret later on in defense of our self worth. We then have guilt as a reflection of personal regret. It is a worthy model of learning. It is private for the most part and it is instructive in ways that allow us to move forward into forgiveness. We learn about how we wish to comport ourselves with others largely in the emotional and moral expressions of our interpersonal interactions towards others and yet not limited to our private interactions. Sometimes we screw up in public! And the ensuing embarrassment can also teach in very similar ways as that of guilt. - lol! I do advise that we don't become too attached to the pain of guilt and instead realize the forgiveness with in and utilize that as the personal teaching model of choice. Forgiveness is a way of redemption from guilt. The healing starts from within our heart. But guilt is always there if you cannot adopt the self forgiveness structure! And the education will continue. - blessings Bradly and all! - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Hii all….. Guilt is a strong feeling that has been with me all since my life started. LOL I feel guilt comes with the presence of morality and the realization of right and wrong. When ever I realize or feel that I have done something that should not have done by me or I could have behaved better the first Phase I get into is into guilt. Guilt is a state of mind when we realize the mistake in our act. We may choose to do many things in this state. We may repent for the act of ours, or choose to condemn and look down upon ourself for the act. In most of the time I would always condemn myself. If the causing act can be corrected or done something.. I would jump for it… or go to the person affected and as for forgiveness.. Being in the phase of guilt itself is not a very good choice to be made. The result of it is more the self satisfaction of being in the guilt as a punishment or a compensative action for the mistake. But self forgiveness is something I have always failed to do when I am in guilt. I would always look down upon myself and when I fall before my own eyes where and how can I raise up to forgive myself. And by not forgiving self this could cause such a growth of baggage of hate and anger… we are just stepping back. Every time I feel guilty and I wont forgive and let go.. I feel so heavy as I am accumulating so much of guilt anger and hate. So wat if its hate and ager on myself and not on others…. Its still there !!!!! And as my guru says self forgiveness is so much important in the progress of K. as much of forgiving others. How often we thank our self and forgive our self… What is self realization when we don’t respect the self itself!!!! Guilt is a wonderful blessing where it helps us not to be selfish and we get to be present to what is right and wrong and think of others. But guilt must be taken only as a first step….. and move on rather than just being caught in the guilt itself!!!!! Regards Prasad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Bradley What a great question and chrism you answered that so well Thankyou both John , " chrism " <> wrote: > > It is the part of a person that helps them to know what is the > appropriate thought or action or feeling. It teaches us and helps to > mold us by our feelings associated with its expression within us. > > We feel guilt often for something we have done that goes against our > own emotional morality. Guilt arises due to the infraction and helps > us to realize how we have behaved and how we may have responded > differently to the situation. How we may have handled it better. Guilt > helps us to know these alternatives. > > I feel these are all positive traits of guilt and that guilt is really > a way of teaching with love from ourselves for ourselves and our > advancement into greater personal understandings. > > Allowing another person to inflict guilt is an activity of allowing > punishment from one person to another and guilt is often co-opted as a > tool of passive aggression for this purpose. No other person can > inflict guilt upon you without permission being given from you to > them. But sometimes the soul will need this to occur if the moral > structure of the person isn't strong enough to make the developmental > advancement on its own. So a learning scenario is created or revealed > that allows the lessons to be given. > > Sometimes guilt can be used to help this process along. At other times > it is used by others as a control method or as an abusive activity. In > these situations both people are learning lessons of power and of love > and either one can stop if they truly wish too but for the one > " receiving " self forgiveness must occur. For the " abuser " guilt for > that action may be next for them to experience and eventually self > forgiveness after their personal scenarios of balance activate for > their education. It is a teaching process. > > We must learn to forgive ourselves for the hurts and activities that > we partake of that are worthy of guilt. These are most often > infractions of an emotional nature. In some way our love has been > abrogated and from that injury self worth issues can arise and in our > pain sometimes we can do actions that we regret later on in defense of > our self worth. We then have guilt as a reflection of personal regret. > > It is a worthy model of learning. It is private for the most part and > it is instructive in ways that allow us to move forward into > forgiveness. We learn about how we wish to comport ourselves with > others largely in the emotional and moral expressions of our > interpersonal interactions towards others and yet not limited to our > private interactions. Sometimes we screw up in public! And the ensuing > embarrassment can also teach in very similar ways as that of guilt. - lol! > > I do advise that we don't become too attached to the pain of guilt and > instead realize the forgiveness with in and utilize that as the > personal teaching model of choice. Forgiveness is a way of redemption > from guilt. The healing starts from within our heart. > > But guilt is always there if you cannot adopt the self forgiveness > structure! And the education will continue. - blessings Bradly and > all! - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Thanks and everyone, those are some great thoughts... What a teacher guilt can be... It's amazing how everything in its divine perfection is here teaching and molding us... How many other little teachers are we missing? be well! bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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