Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 Don't you feel that in yoga as in life you make a few decisions on your own and take some responsibility for your own actions? It's not just about going to classes. I think you will find that many of the more dedicated yogis in any form are practising on a very regular basis as their well being requires.<br>As for the blankets in say Pasasana, well how about if you reduce the height gradually as the achilles tendons start to stretch more until eventually you are using no blanket.........how would that be? Then at least you are working in the asana to get the twist of the spine which is the major work and should your heels not be flexible from day one you are still working towards.........especially if you do not have someone spotting you in that pose that is how it works.......if you watch David Swenson's second series video he also rolls up a portion of his maty in this............<br>One thing I tell my students is that in yoga there is no rush to get things perfect as there are no prizes at the end of class, or exams to pass, if you are going to live a healthy life then most of us have another thirty years of practise ahead so relax and enjoy where you are at and let the practise unfold naturally. Yoga is not about ambition or pride, those things are pitfalls on the pathless path.<br>On a personal note, I have just had a back injury a (three day event) and am now recovering from surgery on an unrelated matter......bothg of these things mean that I cannot be practising fully in the astanga method.......if I believed that was the only way and must be done only to the max as some of the posters seem to do I would probably be angry, frustrated, depressed and generally sad, instead I allow "what is" to unfold as it may and go gently on myself with a smile on my face and peace in my heart. To keep flexibility in my spine I adapt poses and uses props rather than do nothing. I am therefore very glad for the work of BKS Iyengar and the Iyengar teachers who have taught me how to do this. When I am recovered and can do intense practise then I will also enjoy that.........to me that is yoga nmot this sense of one upmanship that many of our posters seem to go in for, it's not Beatles vs Stones, Oasis vs Blur or Korn vs Limp Bizkit.......yoga in whatever form is about enhancing the quality of your life. My guru is better than yours is something you should have matured out of long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 No, no, no! What are you talking about? For the third time, I am not confusing going to classes with yoga practice. Since as you say, in Iyengar, it is not all about going to classes, what is it about when you don't go to classes? What I am asking is in a class, there is a teacher, and the teacher will teach the students about what a regular practice consists of, and this is my question. All I want to know is WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED PRACTICE THAT IYENGAR TEACHERS TEACH THEIR STUDENTS? I know what it says in the back of Light on Yoga. But in Iyengar classes, no one ever says anything about what a regular practice involves. And every time I ask this question, I am told that "it is not about classes..." What? Classes? Who asked about classes? What is "it?" In fact, althought your response is eloquent you unfortunately didn't answer my question. <br><br>The funny thing is, every time I ask an Iyengar person this question, I get the same kind of evasive answer. So will someone please tell me what kind of regular practice is taught to Iyengar students. Or is there none. I just want to know what qualified Iyengar teachers teach their students to do at home when they don't go to class. Let me word it another way, what do qualified Iyengar teachers teach their students a regular yoga practice consists of? Or, let me word it another way... Or another way... <br><br><br>FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 A long time ago, I asked John Schumacher about that recommended course of practice in the back of LOY. His reply was that Iyengar said (of himself) "the man who wrote the book knew nothing." <br><br>Which, I guess, could be taken as an evasive answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 I am not being obnoxious this time. I really want to know. This is getting funny and possibly boring. <br><br>FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 Hey, I wasn't trying to offer a glib remark (there, anyway). I agree, the ways of the Iyengar method are mysterious to behold.<br><br>A couple of weeks ago I referred to a book about Iyengar that contained several very revealing interviews. In one, BKS says something along the lines: that a fundamental aspect of his yoga is that it should be totally free of rigid forms. <br>I wonder, though, given the way "Iyengar" is taught these days, whether or not B succeeded in transmitting his vision of yoga to the world. Or maybe, Irony, like suffering, is a constant in this relative world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Perhaps it is difficult for an ashtanga practioner to understand a regular home practice without having a routine.<br><br>Iyengar home practice is very much encouraged. What is learned in class can be taken home. It can be creative and flexible and each session can be tailored to an individual's needs. A woman with her period will be recommended a certain set of poses. Or people with certain needs like someone with an injury can focus on resolving that. Or one can focus on backbends one day and forward bends the next day and twisting the next or else combine them. Beginners are instructed to work a lot on standing poses. I believe certain asanas are encouraged to be done regularly (even daily) like shoulderstand and some standing poses. The order of asanas being performed is totally different from ashtanga. Headstand is recommended to be done before shoulderstand for example. And inversions are supposed to be done toward the beginning to avoid fatigue when doing them.<br><br>A person can decide for how long they want to practice. A person does what they need for therapeutic reasons within the recommendations for their level of expertise.<br><br>With ashtanga it is much different.<br><br>Crowjuice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Thank you Mr. Juice.<br>Now will somebody PLEASE give FBL the poses for a woman having her period because one can only assume that she was (is?) prementrual...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 FBL,<br><br>I have been a student of Iyengar yoga on and off for about 6 years. It is my understanding that a home practice per se is not stressed. And, it is my understanding that a home practice is very unique and evolves from yourself after years of practice. It is a practice that you come up with. However, I did request and got a series of asanas to do at home for myself from my Iyengar teacher after a private consultation. The series focused on an area of my body that needed more opening.<br><br>Ashtanga and Iyengar work from opposite approaches. Iyengar focuses on the exact alignment and therefore takes years of instruction to learn and master whereas most ashtangis learn the asanas and can have a daily practice right away and only years later, if at all, will come to know the most energetic (prana) way do be in the asana.<br><br>Hope that helps.<br>Yeshe.<br><br>PS Why don't you just go to some Iyengar classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Fret not, warriorgirl: few indeed are the posters on this board who have escaped FBL's sting. She's grouchy but apparently not malicious.<br><br>Peace and Good,<br>Homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 warriorgirl you were perhaps being tongue-in-cheek but this may be helpful for people anyway<br><br><a href=http://yogacircle.com/menses.html target=new>http://yogacircle.com/menses.html</a><br><br>crowjuice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2001 Report Share Posted February 28, 2001 Not very helpful for astanga girls who use nothing but sticky mats & Mysore rugs for their yoga practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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