suns -- charlatans, 1

[Guest guest]

charlatans abound. was once in an "ashtanga yoga"

class where the instructor held us in "down dog" for 20

minutes and then directed everyone up against a mirrored

wall for headstands. right. heard she "went to india"

recently, and spent her whole time there sightseeing. can

you say "cosmic debris," boys and girls? see the

certification discussion here before the recent ugly spat of

ignorant gay bashing. can't argue with the concept of some

form of proof that the teacher has a

clue.<br><br>some, like the religious right, want to discredit the

practice of yoga, so will deliberaterly spread lies and

confusion. others are merely opportunists, wishing to cash

in on the trend or simply gain two minutes of

attention. with the plethora of books, publications, and

websites, authoritative information is easy to find. no

need to rely on anonymous "experts" crawling out of

the woodwork, who, face it, are just scanning a page

ahead of you from any book on the prescribed reading

list, assiduously typing out quotes to impress you. add

a "dear blessed self" and a few other catchphrases

and the sham is complete. careful what you read on

the internet. no picture? no personal information? no

credibility.<br><br>beware particularly of those whose forbidding attitudes

and shame-based clucking mirror traditional

puritanical judeo-christian sects. the christian coalition is

as virulent in its opposition toward yoga and

hinduism as it is in its obsessive hatred of homosexuals.

yoga is about complete liberation. no evangelical

prohibitions are attached to yoga. zero. presumably a sincere

christian ernestly exploring yoga will be interested in

finding an esoteric path reconciling sadhana with faith

in the bible. but make no mistake -- the power of

yoga is an antidote to the limitations of restrictive

organized religion, not a bauble to be co-opted (though

it's fun watching the missionaries try).<br><br>the

internet is saturated with all manner of busy little

evangelical christians masquerading, often in teams, in any

role necessary to realize their life's goal:

conversion of every non-christian in the world ("pagans") to

their zealous, mystical belief in the biblical jesus,

or as we hear it in the u.s.,

ja-a-a-a-ayzzzzussssssssss. they envision a day when criminal and civil law

is the same as the old testament "thou shalt nots,"

replete with execution of gay people and obliteration of

any belief system, like hinduism, that venerates

deities other than the god of the hebrew

nation.<br><br>to see some of the nonsense the yoga-hating,

gay-baiting religious right is spreading about yoga see these

charming links:<br><br>this one from a christian

"ex-yogi," with all the familiar trappings of the equally

preposturous "ex-gay" sham:<br><br>cont'd>>>>>

[Guest guest]

You really should chill omboy. Now you play the

total idiot. Your latest post is really stupid

considering it's Easter Sunday. You are keeping the gay thing

in the forefront I see. Somethings just never change

do they?<br><br>So you don't like the "religious

right" Who really cares except for you. Maybe you should

go up to Saint Patrick's Cathedral and chuck some

condoms at it. This is what the gays at Act Up did a few

years ago. Real, real smart eh? LOLOLOL<br><br>I

usually just lurk (hey FBL! ... you are funny!) but am

speaking out at your repulsive post. Can you stifle your

uncontrollable urge for attention for a while? Chill out

dude!!<br><br>JY7

[Guest guest]

Omboy likes to play the poor victim of the ashtanga-board gay bashers. After

all, he has nothing else to post on.

[Guest guest]

The Christian Coalition is a political

organization with a lot of power. They practically control the

Republican party, which in turn controls all three branches

of the U.S. government. If their position on yoga is

that it leads to devil worship and demonic posession

(?!?), then that fact will be relevant news to some

practitioners of yoga (whatever their beliefs may be).

<br><br>This is not meant to defend the perceived bashing of

Christians or any other group, but I'm not sure that was

MO's intention. There's a difference between bashing

all members of a religion and raising an alarm

regarding a specific organization's activities.

[Guest guest]

herr skull<br><br>thanx for giving me a good

laugh - i think your light just went on. (truth shining

through)<br><br>This ties in with your other truth - about the

desperate part (if you qoute me i may deny it).<br>Before

we realize that we're miserable and desparate in

essence (yeah, yeah because of the Separation and all

that)(and "take thee to a nunnery", i mean...'ashtanga

yoga' - it IS a tad more practical) we blame everyone

else for our state which sums up -bingo- our own

omcowboy.

[Guest guest]

so you've been lurking you say? but only since

march 22, 2001 ... according to your informationless

profile. another anonymous screen name created during the

archaic and unimaginative gay bashing to join in the

fun.<br><br>you should really try a yoga practice sometime. don't

be frightened, you will not be possessed by the

devil.

[Guest guest]

i wouldn't say "victimized." but always interested in dissolving ignorance

where i can. thank you for the copious opportunities.

[Guest guest]

thank you for the reasonable assessment. funny

how when one tells the simple truth on the internet

about the christian coalition, myriad personal attacks

and outright lies get attached to every message --

like barnacles.<br><br>i began posting here and within

three weeks was gay baited and verbally bashed because

people went to my website and deduced that i am gay. the

phraseology and techniques used are the same as those

contrived by fundamentalist christian demagogues. their

intent was to disrupt the board and take the focus away

from yoga, something they hate as much as the dreaded

homosexual -- which my reporting was intended to bring to

light. type something like the words "christian" and

"yoga" at any search engine and see the thousands of

enlightening listings that come up about demonic possession,

occult, devil worship, etc.<br><br>the language, the

hostility, the dishonesty used by such people at this board

in an effort to rout the "queer" and misinform about

yoga have nothing to do with anybody interested enough

in yoga to practice and to discuss it in a public

forum.

[Guest guest]

so you've been lurking you say? but only since

march 22, 2001 ... according to your informationless

profile. another anonymous screen name created during the

archaic and unimaginative gay bashing to join in the

fun.<br><br>you should really try a yoga practice sometime. don't

be frightened, you will not be possessed by the

devil.<br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><br><br>Been here since 1/20/2001. Different

name. <br><br>You

really should get out more. Your hysteria about the

Christian Coalition is out of comic book. It may play well

in lower Manhattan and a few other places. So you

start to get misconceptions about how much you really

know about their power. I too wouldn't want to live in

a nation run by Christian fundamentalists<br><br>At

any rate it's nice to see them have some influence on

what's going on here in the US. Far better than the

influence of militant, wacko gays. Your ideas about gay

marriage are laughable and just another game of pretend. I

wish you luck in life. I just think you are much more

out there than you have any idea.

[Guest guest]

<< Your ideas about gay marriage are

laughable... >><br><br>Why should gay marriage be

laughable? Actually, it's widely legal in Europe already,

esp. in Scandinavia and in the Netherlands. But France

also and, albeit more reluctantly, Germany, have been

the most recent European countries to introduce some

kind of institutionalised gay marriage. Even in

ultra-Catholic Spain, according to opinion polls, most people

are now in favour of it. The US should take notice.

[Guest guest]

oh yeah, you're credible. the yoda-inspired syntax is a nice touch.