Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 "it is clear to me why certain of this group broke off to form a club reflecting the values of those actually engaged in a yoga practice, and are careful about who they allow to join. the slew of anonymous screen names that have sprung up here in the past month specifically to gay bash would not get through." <br><br>Actually, that club (<a href=http://pub42.ezboard.com/byoga84291 target=new>http://pub42.ezboard.com/byoga84291</a>) doesn't select who can or can not join. Nor are messages censored at all. The only difference might be in that the members of that club would have nipped the whole conversation amongst all those involved in the bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Gabita,<br>How exactly would the members of the other club "nip such a dialogue in the bud?" Just curious exactly how that would happen. I was thinking that since there are only 40 or 50 people registered there as opposed to the thousand or so here it might be easier to set a consistent tone with so few people posting most of the messages... With so many members posting messages it becomes a matter of just moving forward through the crowd. If you want to stop and have a conversation with the psychotic person on the corner, feel free. No one can stop you anyway.<br><br>FBL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 perhaps i misunderstood the information included with the invitation to join that club. it came with such a lovely, supportive note too. thank you for the clarification. think there is actually great value in wide open membership here, letting in the crypo-fascists and the typical, completely familiar internet suspects in the hate-monger category. serves to demonstrate the confusion in the world and the true value of the gift of the ashtanga. were are all, after all, one.<br><br>clubs i have founded have close to six hundred and seven hundred members respectively. a couple of years ago they were more active on the message board, now most communication takes place through email and real-time gatherings. never had to delete anybody, but certainly were anybody to spew the kind of hate, cliche' baiting technique and deliberate misinformation found here they would have been confronted pretty quickly.<br><br>i remember as a kid practicing yoga at school or the Y and occasionally encountering repressive attitudes -- was even told that asanas were somehow disturbing and inappropriate. (the link i posted a while back about officials canceling a yoga event in a public school out of fear of demonic possession shows that repressive spirit is still alive.) people my age who thought yoga postures, vegetarian diet and sattvic life were "crazy" or "psychotic" are now pretty decayed and embittered, or departed from bodies and minds devastated by ignorance.<br> <br>the quest for liberation is a beautiful thing. hanging on to archaic attachments, us and them bigotries and all that, is really chosing bondage, creating tons of karma to have to work out life after life.<br><br>here's yet another confused fundamentalist website among the thousands that have sprung up recently condemning yoga and hinduism as "demonic":<br><br><a href=http://www.religion-cults.com/Eastern/Hinduism/hindu8.htm#B- target=new>http://www.religion-cults.com/Eastern/Hinduism/hindu8.htm#B-</a> "Body Postures"<br><br>excerpt:<br>"Eastern "meditation" or "contemplation" considers the mind to be an enemy of the spirit, while the Bible teaches that the Creator has gifted man with the capacity to "reason", to know God and discern the way and will of the Lord... no animal has ever<br>shown any religious idea; no monkey has ever built a temple or a cemetery or an altar..."<br><br>"In 1985 the Catholic Church indicated the incompatibility of any practice of Yoga with the Christian faith, because all kinds of Yoga involve the active idolatry to a god. The same stance has been taken by other Christian denominations."<br><br>***<br><br>perhaps the evangelical army (or individual posting under several different anonymous, recently-created screen names) so busy disrupting things here can explain why those who love jesus cannot just be content to live in devotion to that concept, and leave the rest of us to follow our own paths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 "How exactly would the members of the other club "nip such a dialogue in the bud?" ... With so many members posting messages it becomes a matter of just moving forward through the crowd. If you want to stop and have a conversation with the psychotic person on the corner, feel free. No one can stop you anyway."<br><br>Yes, true FBL, about anyone can stop to have a conversation with the psychotic on the corner. In fact, I think I do that a little too often in "real" life (rather than virtual life). When I said "nip the conversation in the bud" I was thinking more along the lines of people on the other board first asking the psychotic to clarify, rather than start bashing him or her, leading to more misunderstandings. (This has indeed happened on the other board). I think because the other board started coincidentally at a time when a lot of misunderstandings and fighting was happening on this board, that we all learned a lesson early on to look before you leap.<br>Because, come on, we all know that we can't possibly express ourselves in these little boxes as well as we can in person.<br><br>I do prefer the "moving forward through the crowd" maneuvering, even though I was quite astonished to see that I was actually not giving into temptation to add my two cents to the vitriol (because, boy, is there a lot of crap from certain people on this board who I thought were all supposed to be practicing sun salutations in traffic by now). <br><br>But, please, don't get me wrong - I'm all in favor of having all sorts of philosophies on any board (it makes for a good laugh at the very least). BTW, Are you still torturing kittens? (Sorry, I thought that was hilarious and still remember that post!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 "perhaps the evangelical army (or individual posting under several different anonymous, recently-created screen names) so busy disrupting things here can explain why those who love jesus cannot just be content to live in devotion to that concept, and leave the rest of us to follow our own paths? "<br><br>Oooh, oooh, oooh, can I add my two cents here? Come on, do you really believe that anyone who loves Jesus wouldn't recognize love in any shape or form? They're misguided. Don't worry about them. Let them follow their own path. And we'll follow ours. No biggie. <br><br>And, about the Catholic church condemning yoga for its idolotry...um, what about the virgin Mary and statues of Jesus on a cross? They know they're idolotrous! That's part of the charm. (I'm catholic, I can say these things. Hee hee).<br><br>A whie back (geez, is it one or two years now?) someone asked about members' experiences being a devoted person in their chosen religion and in yoga- how the two are combined and how that felt, etc. (yes, long before that yoga journal article- I think the editor was syping, personally). Someone else responded about reading the autobiography of a yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda. May I repeat that request- read this book. It does a beautiful job of demonstrating how the divine in us and in the world and in others is the same (etc.) and that Jesus was also trying to tell the world that in his day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 << because, boy, is there a lot of crap from certain people on this board who I thought were all supposed to be practicing sun salutations in traffic by now >><br><br>For that matter, I have noticed "a lot of crap by certain people" on the other board, too. So where's the difference? (Oh, and sorry if I've hurt your feelings as an "ezboarder".) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 "For that matter, I have noticed "a lot of crap by certain people" on the other board, too. So where's the difference? (Oh, and sorry if I've hurt your feelings as an "ezboarder".)"<br><br>Oh, I think the only difference is that we have a "crap" forum. We're highly organized over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 No. The only difference between ezboard and this club is that on ezboard, the crap is posted in colour. Here, it comes in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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