Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 I can sympathize with you, Jessa. This teacher is WAY out of bounds for a variety of reasons. First of all, the only person allowed to "certify" Ashtanga teachers is SPJ. You can see partial list of certified teachers on www.Ashtanga.com under "classes". They became certified due to their long commitment and discipline to the Ashtanga system and SPJ. People like your teacher or Larry Schultz have no business offering "Ashtanga teacher training certification." <br><br>The whole issue of Ashtanga certification is a fairly recent phenomenon. My understanding is that Lino Miele lobbied SPJ to "Certify" teachers in order to maintain quality control. SPJ printed up some certificates and started offering them to the advanced students in the mid 80's. The people who studied with SPJ in the late 70's early 80's may not technically be "certified", though they have obviously paid their dues. It just wasn't an issue back then.<br><br>Other people like Eddie Stern - certainly one of the best teachers and probably one of the closest people to SPJ - considers "certification" (i.e. a piece of paper) meaningless. His mandate to teach comes from SPJ and from the many advanced and knowledgeable people who seek him out to learn. Consistent with this traditional approach, Eddie refuses to advertise his NY Yoga Shala ( SPJ is opposed to advertising - "when the student is ready the guru appears" the saying goes. ) Eddie also removed his name from the www.ashtanga.com site's list of Ashtanga teachers when the site ceased being a public service and started to sell yoga ephemera.<br><br>Yoga has gone through some changes in its journey from India to the West. In the past, a guru would not charge his students, but they would have to be prepared at any moment to do whatever he asked - sweep the shalla, give a demonstration, and offer a level of respect and deference that would make a westerner uncomfortable (bowing before the teacher, touching his feet, etc...). In this context, yoga was not considered a workout or a weight-loss program, but a spiritual process that would be debased if you put a price on it.<br><br> (End of part 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 << Eddie also removed his name from the www.ashtanga.com site's list of Ashtanga teachers when the site ceased being a public service and started to sell yoga ephemera.>><br><br>I am sure Eddie Stern is a very fine teacher as well as a fierce guardian of the Astanga tradition. I would like to point out though that Eddie has been, in my understanding, the *only one* so far to remove his name from the ashtanga.com site. Others did not follow his example. Am I to believe that teachers such as Lino Miele, John Scott, Kimberly Flynn, Noah Williams and Richard Freeman, to name some, are less in sync with the Astanga tradition than Eddie Stern, just because they seemingly don't object to see their names put among the sale of "yoga ephemera"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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