Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 OK, I admit I've only been taught second series for a couple of classes, and that was almost a year ago. All I have for reference are the Swenson book and videos, and I'm trying to update my practice.<br><br>In Swenson, you proceed immediately from Ekapada Sirsasana C (the one where you are supported on your hands with free leg stuck out in front) to vinyasa. But my original teacher, when practicing this series, would pull herself up into Chakorasana (free leg straight up), before jumping back. Is this the received way now?<br><br>Does the new edition of Lino Miehle's book cover second series?<br><br>Thanks for any info.<br><br>Homer<br>Yoga Castaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Homer, I believe in his discussion paragraph for C, Mr. Swenson discusses that particular question.<br>Leg straight out front for that posture. The leg pointed upward is a different posture from one of the advanced series. Have to say though, most of the people did do the leg up posture during the Guruji second series workshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Actually Swenson appears to be addressing the issue of whethe rto hold the leg straight out ofr five breaths or to hold it straight up for five breaths. The straight up five-breath version is indeed called Chakorasana in the third series and the old advanced A series. My question was whether, after the five breaths with leg straight out, you then pull up into Chakorasana (inhale) and then jump back (exhale).<br><br>Homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 "Does the new edition of Lino Miehle's book cover second series?"<br><br>Homer, yes it does. And Lino's book omits three poses that Swenson's includes: Eka Pada Sirsasana C, Tittibhasana D and Vrishchikasana. So if you want to follow Lino's instructions you won't have to worry about Eka Pada Sirsasana C at all! Also, Lino's book does Mukta Hasta Sirsasana before Baddha Hasta Sirsasana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Interesting! So I was taught the (old? Swensonesque?) way after all.<br><br>Thnaks,<br>Homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 << Does the new edition of Lino Miele's book cover second series? >><br><br>I don't think teachers like Lino Miele or John Scott would EVER publish a book or produce a video that goes beyond Primary Series. Whereas it seems to me that it is perfectly possible to learn Yoga Chikitsa with the help of books/videos, I agree with Senor on Intermediate Series: to learn Intermediate, you definitely need the assistance of a qualified teacher - in the ideal case that would be Sri Jois himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Forget parts of my previous message. Yes, Lino Miele's book does indeed cover Intermediate Series. But I think Lino's book is meant to be used as a reference, not as a guide to learn from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 >>I don't think teachers like Lino Miele or John Scott would EVER publish a book or produce a video that goes beyond Primary Series<br><br>Herr Schädel, for once your careful reading of the texts is mistaken. Lino's book (1996 edition, with forewords by Patthabi Jois and John Scott) does cover the intermediate series. And I thought you were going to make *such* a good lawyer. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Alan Little,<br><br>Thanks for bothering to correct me. However, I tried to correct myself in the following post already. So maybe, although there is little hope indeed that I will become as good an astangi as Lino Miele is, I may at least become a good lawyer after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I'm nowhere near ready to think about intermediate series yet, but this business of borrowing asanas from a more advanced series as transitions also crops up in primary series - for example after utkatasana, where Lino Miele teaches, and John Scott in his book describes, lifting into a bakasana-like position on the way back. And after bhujapidasana (and supta kurmasana?) where opening into titthibasana A before going back seems to be the generally done thing. (Although at a workshop I did with hm recently, Lino was teaching more of a kind of "unwrap the legs and whip them back round the shoulders quickly" kind of thing than an extension into a full titthibasana). And if you can open/lift into these positions fairly cleanly for one breath, holding them for five is not that much more of a big deal in my experience.<br><br>These comments not intended to have any huge cosmic significance, just observations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Sorry. I try to read to the end of things before I reply to any message, but I don't always succeed.<br><br>But you not only made a mistake, you also promptly admitted you were wrong. Watch out. That's more yogic than lawyerly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 "Lino was teaching more of a kind of "unwrap the legs and whip them back round the shoulders quickly" kind of thing than an extension into a full titthibasana). "<br><br>This makes sense to me, since in my experience it's rather difficult to get into a good titthibasana right out of bhuja -- but it's much easier after kurmasana, because the arm/leg alignment is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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