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<From a nutritional point of view.. it can be

damaging to omit all meat products, due to the fact there

are essential components that have to be supplied to

our diet, as they cannot be synthesised by the body.

Linoleic Acid, from animal fats... for one><br><br>OK,

Jon, I said would look into linoleic acid, here's what

I found. Linoleic acid is one of the essential

fatty acids. The other two, arachidonic and linolenic,

can be made by the body as long as sufficient

linoleic is supplied. These fatty acids are important for

all kinds of things in the body.<br><br>As far as

having to eat meat to get linoleic acid, here is a quote

from Diet for a New America by John

Robbins:<br><br>"Ironically, one of the arguments put forth by the meat,dairy,

and egg industries to justify consumption of

saturated fats is that 'fats contain essential nutrients'.

In fact, the only nutrient we must get from fats is

linoleic acid, and animal fats are very poor sources. One

tablespoon of safflower oil, for example, provides as much

linoleic acid as a cup and a half of butter, and more than

two whole cups of beef fat."<br><br>So there goes

that one.<br><br>I have not read it, but Diet for a

New America is one of the best books on

vegetarianism. The best book on the subject that I have read is

Radical Vegetarianism by Mark Matthew

Braunstein.<br><br>I am not so strict with my diet and sometimes eat

some meat. And vegetarians do need to make sure they

get enough of certain nutrients, like protein, and

B12, but its not that hard to do, especially if you

don't cut out dairy and eggs. I think yogurt is good.

The Ashtanga world is one place where you can

probably find quite a few super-healthy, strong humans who

have been vegetarians for a long time. I do know of

some.<br><br>There are some natural super-food supplements that can

be useful - spirulina and bee pollen are good.

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"I have not read it, but Diet for a New America

is one of the best books on vegetarianism."<br>--

"TLSLADE"<br>the "Betty Crocker" of yoga book shills.<br><br>I bet

you can also tell us where to BUY the best book

you've NEVER read.

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Jayadev, where are you coming from with

this?<br><br>And don't come back with any "who's Jayadev?",

everyone figured this out long ago. (Well maybe not

everyone - Jayadev is Midnight_Omboy, who has been posting

here under several different identities, mainly to

mount a multi-pronged attack on Omprem, since he "left"

the club in msg #7986). <br><br>I was also puzzled by

your previous similar attack on me (post 8487) under

your "nandilove" identity.<br><br>I am not selling

anything. I owned a bookstore briefly when I was 18, but I

don't sell books anymore. Perhaps I will change my mind

someday, but for now I earn money with manual

labor.<br><br>Your attacks are particularly strange since you also

have a website which happens to have a list of

recommended yoga books:

<a href=http://members.nbci.com/omboy/2-menu.htm

target=new>http://members.nbci.com/omboy/2-menu.htm</a><br>Except that you make

money from your Amazon links (which

is fine). Its also interesting that you say this is

partly to help defray the cost of running your website,

even though it is on a free server. For those who need

or want it explained, I even put up a web page just

to explain how Amazon's referral program

works:<br><a href=http://www.ionet.net/~tslade/amazlink.htm

target=new>http://www.ionet.net/~tslade/amazlink.htm</a><br>I make no money from

linking to Amazon! I also

explain on my yoga books page that I don't participate in

that program because I don't want to have to listen to

comments like yours. I'm not "in it for the money". Why is

that hard to understand? I like books. Information is

valuable, sometimes life-saving. Since I happen to have

checked into and obtained a ton of yoga books, I am happy

to share some info on what is available. I have

links to various sources since some books are hard to

find. I have links to Amazon since you can read other

people's reviews and they are a good company to deal with.

I don't have any "marketing arrangements" with

anyone. To be completely open about it, I have recieved

one or two books or videos from authors, but this did

not affect my listing or comments at all. My list of

yoga books is large, but there are no books on it that

I don't REALLY recommend. And if my efforts result

in more SALES for authors or publishers - that's

GREAT! Let's keep the yoga info moving. And though I

make no money from it, I can admit that perhaps my

website is just a big ego trip. Why am I sitting here in

front of this machine?<br><br>I can quite confidently

recommend John Robbins' book as one of the very best books

to read on vegetarianism even though I have not read

it cover to cover. I do have a copy of it and as you

might deduce, I found it quite useful in researching

the linoleic acid issue. I think of my book

collection mainly as a reference library. I have a ton of

books on food and diet and there are many I would

recommend, depending on the situation. (And for anyone

really interested in the subject, Radical Vegetarianism

is a TOTALLY AWESOME book! And I have read it! AND I

would suggest reading more about it at Amazon.com and

even ordering it from them, unless you have another

preference.) <br><br>I found some of your posts to be very

interesting before the IMHO scandal happened here. And I was

even on your side through most of the "debates"

arising from that. In the interest of free speech, sure

if you have things to say here go ahead, hopefully

they will pertain to the study of yoga rather than

attacking club members. If you don't want to post under

your true identity anymore, that's OK too. It is

strange though, after you lectured everyone else for

using "anonymous screen names".<br><br>If you choose to

hang around here, I hope you will discontinue the

multiple identity thing. And I hope you will be nice to

everyone.<br><br>You seem very intelligent and well-studied in yoga.

Please use your talents to help and not

harm!<br><br>Really though, man - peace.<br><br>I mean really -

peace.

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Yeah, but you still recommended the best book

you've NEVER read. Kind of takes a LOT of explaining,

doesn't it?<br><br>So I went to the website of the person

you say I am. There one can link to a page where

there are books for sale from Amazon.com. One has to

make the choice and the effort to go to where books

are going to be hawked. Why do you find that

objectionable?<br><br>How is that the same as your brand of guerrilla

marketing at a message board, where you pose as a

disinterested consumer recommending several books in every

message you post? As others have pointed out here, your

good buddy Omprem, though on a smaller scale, also

pretends to be a disinterested consumer recommending that

people go to the yoga studio in Canada where he teaches

fake Ashtanga yoga classes. Nice to see you two have

joined forces to discredit what you identify as the

common enemy of commercial opportunism. Sorry, though,

your conclusions as to my identity are as off as your

moral senses.<br><br>Yes, I take issue with your

marketing practices. You say you make no money from

tirelessly selling books here and elsewhere on the web day

after day. Unlikely, but how could we ever know that?

<br>I also take issue with Omprem's unbridled

expressions of contempt for Hindus and African Americans and

that guy in New York who wouldn't let Omprem into his

naked yoga class, thus incurring his eternal mediocre

wrath. Guess you find that sort of harrassment perfectly

fine.<br><br>By the way, the passive/aggressive peace and love

yoga schmoga motif in your epic length posting was a

nice touch. You girls in marketing really DO think of

everything!! (Too bad the CEO keeps all the money while you

sweat away daily in an ugly little cubicle.)

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Relax, Sunfun, I am also one of the many imagined

heads of Omprem's dreaded naked New York yoga

bogeyman.<br><br>At first I thought Omprem stalked me because I just

had a baby. Then he started attacking people for

being Hindu, Black, etc. so I guess we could all fit in

there somewhere. Now I find it was all a matter of 1)

when I joined the club, and 2) my taking exception to

Omprem's endless expressions of bigotry.<br><br>Looks like

he's been busy convincing the gullible of his paranoic

fanatasies through an arduous email campaign. Ew, with all

that sitting at the computer what a fat pimply sweaty

Canadian ass he must have!<br><br>The target of all this

hatred must be quite powerful. He appears to have

abandoned this club long ago yet lives on in the wayward

mind fluctuations of the confused.

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