Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Shame on Vishva. Doesn`t he know that ashtanga is for whites only ?<br> It says clearly in the requirements for certification that only rich white people may teach this form of yoga. ( excepting the direct Guruji family).<br>Shame on Vishvanath that he charges 250 dollars a month. I mean that is half the sum that guruji charges but forget that- the average Indian earns 100 rps a month so that means that he should charge his students about 2 rps a month. <br> Him being slightly over weight is surely a sign of his greed- look for example at Pattabhi he is not over weight at all, is he ?<br>So many yoga criminals ; BNS Iyengar, Yoga Vishva - Will they please understand that this yoga should only be taught by the direct guruji family and westerners.<br>A western yoga teacher charging 10 dollars a class can earn 300 dollars just from one class but shame on you Vishva you should only get a few rupees because you are Indian.<br><br>Excuse my irony. Get the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 thank you for posting that. It bothers me immensely that the opportunity to "legitimately" teach is limited to those with five hundred bucks a month to blow, repetitively, over ten years or whatnot. Its obscene and incredibly classist (and, considering the financial status of people in india, racist as well.) It bothers me as it inherently goes against so many yogic values...teaching opportunities should be based on ability, not race or class or wealth. i may get bashed for it....but its a poor comment on PJ (what he charges to be a teacher), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 Yes. I used to think the same like you not much time ago. I thought: Sri Jois is on his best way to become the guru for the white man (Americans, Europeans, Australians) in search of eastern spirituality to give their void western lives some sense & purpose. I must say though that I have changed my mind since then.<br><br>In my view, the relationship Guru - sisya has never been 'democratic' in any way , so the terms 'racist', 'classist' etc. simply don't apply here. As I see it, the Guru system is an autocratic one by nature. Sri Jois, for example, uses to throw those students who dare to complain or to contradict him out of his classes - this at least is what I've read. He has the right to do so: isn't Sri Jois the current guru of Astanga Yoga? So it's up to him to have the last word concerning the practice, the fees, the teacher certification etc. As an Astanga practitioner, you must accept this.<br><br>However, so far Sri Jois' fee system has not prevented anyone who seriously wants to study with him to do so. For all I know, certified Astanga-Yoga teachers like John Scott, Lino Miele or Hamish Hendry don't come from 'rich' backgrounds. More important to me is that Sri Jois is not a charlatan - and there are plenty of them in India who call themselves 'guru'. Sri Jois certainly is not a charlatan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 It isn't just for rich white people. If you have the desire to study there you find ways to do it, that's all. I am white but far from rich, have a family and all of that, but go to Mysore fairly often. It's all just a matter of what your priorities are. Guruji is absolutely the one to study with as far as ashtanga goes---- period. He is worth much more than the money he chages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 I would have to second that as another non rich person who goes as often as possible. There are lots of us out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 Funny, but nobody mentions or minds when accomplished white western yoga teachers - Freeman, Miller, etc... not to mention all the silly new-age charlatans in Yoga Journal, charge significantly more than SPJ for their weekend or week-long workshops and yogic retreats. <br><br>People in the top of their field, whatever their color or nationality, can charge whatever they want. Too bad that you can't take advantage of the economic inequities between the 1st and 3rd world this time. <br><br>Cheers,<br>DMcG<br><br> Jessabelson Wrote:<br><br>It bothers me immensely that the opportunity to "legitimately" teach is limited to those with five hundred bucks a month to blow, repetitively, over ten years or whatnot. Its obscene and incredibly classist (and, considering the financial status of people in india, racist as well.) It bothers me as it inherently goes against so many yogic values...teaching opportunities should be based on ability, not race or class or wealth. i may get bashed for it....but its a poor comment on PJ (what he charges to be a teacher), Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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