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I know that YOGA ALLIANCE is a controversial

subject on this board. And I totally understand the

grievances. I am one to believe that you can¡¯t really

standardize or certify teaching, it takes years of practice

to become a teacher, and even after 3 to 5 years of

serious practice you are just an advanced beginner. But

at the same time I live in good ole corporatized USA

and can see the value of registering with YOGA

ALLIANCE if you live in this country. I only see this as a

beginning (you have to start somewhere) and in no way see

the 200 hour minimum standard as any gauge of true

competency. So I am investigating different ways to become

registered. According to YOGA ALLIANCE there are 2 ways to

meet the minimum standards: <br><br>1. By having

completed a yoga teacher training program at a school that

is on the Registry list, or <br><br>2. By

documenting equivalent training through a school not on the

Registry list, or through independent study and/or

teaching experience. <br><br>I am looking into the second

way. Has anyone on this board met the standards

through independent study? What does this involve? Do you

take anatomy courses where you can find them? Do

different workshops and retreats count towards the 200

hours? How do you document your time?

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If you are teaching Ashtanga, Yoga Alliance isn't

a factor. <br><br>If you are teaching yoga

responsibly, then you must have a teacher of your own with

whom you study with regularly. Perhaps this teacher of

yours can answer these questions for you, since as your

teacher, they must have had to deal with similar

situations.<br><br>If you don't have a teacher with whom you have this

kind of relationship, then how do you feel qualified

to teach yoga? I wouldn't give a penny to a person

who teaches yoga and doesn't have a close

relationship with a teacher of their own. Unfortunately, 90%

of the so-called crap yoga teachers out there are in

this contemptible position. How could anyone ask

people to be students if they are not willing to be a

student themselves? <br><br>The key to becoming a good

yoga teacher is to be a good student. If you follow

this path, there never going to be a question about

certification. This is what happens in Ashtanga yoga and this is

why Yoga Alliance is a non-factor.<br><br>PURE

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""If you are teaching Ashtanga, Yoga Alliance

isn't a factor. ""<br><br>Oh to be so young,

thoughtless and carefree. The alliance actually proabably

will be a factor. If not the alliance, something akin

to it. Most people who teach will need liability

insurance. Insurers will want some reassurance that they can

understand that the teacher is safe, low risk (different

than competent). For better or worse, large

organizations like insurance companies tend to look toward such

accrediting agencies for guidance. That the alliance probably

has no legitimacy, espescially with regard to

ashtanga certification, is unfortunately a little beside

the point, it's all the insurers have. So, don't be

surprised to see it foisted upon your teachers too. They

may not ever admit to being amember but they may need

to do it to get insured.

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The "alliance" and for that matter, insurance

carriers, will NOT be a factor for anyone who choses not to

be involved in it. There are plenty of massage

therapists, acupuncturists, and doctors who make a living

without becoming involved with insurance companies,

essentially having a cash only practice. You can make a lot

of money by becoming a health care provider for one

or more insurance companies or an hmo, but a lot of

people dont want that kind of business, and dont want to

be strongarmed in to how they should practice

medicine, or for that matter teach yoga, or what they

should charge for such.<br><br>The Yoga Alliance will

mostly appeal to the kind of individuals who are

regularly crucified on this board: The types of people who

weekend yoga teacher training certification workshops

appeal to, or who just decide out of the blue one day

that teaching yoga might be a decent way to make some

money (or at least meet some cute

guys/girls).<br><br>Hopefully, the yoga alliance means nothing to the people who

have been teaching yoga in the US for years, whether

its astanga or any other style. If astanga teachers

really want to be able to bill insurance, which is

doubtful, there is absolutely nothing to stop them from

creating their own governing body, if in fact a given

insurance carrier required certification from an

organization like that.

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""If astanga teachers really want to be able to

bill insurance, which is<br>

doubtful,...""<br><br>Well, I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

I wasn't suggesting that ashtanga or other yoga

instructors would need insurance to bill for income. I was

suggesting that many insructors would need insurance to

protect them and their livelyhoods from lawsuits.

Whenever someone is hurt on the premesis of a business,

like a yoga studio, the instructor, the owners of the

business and of the property all face potential

lawsuits.<br><br> Now, how many folks who pull a hamstring in janu

a or injure a knee getting into lotus or hurt thier

neck trying to do a handstand will actually sue their

teacher? Don't know, but enough will feel the need to sue

that the average teacher would not be able to make

ends meet secondary to ongoing legal

costs.<br><br>That's just the way it is. A teacher may well decide

they are not going to fall "prey" to the insurance

"trap" and choose not to participate. more power to

them. Unfortunately, I would be willing to bet they are

not in business too long. You may or not agree, but

insurance is an essential risk reduction tool for almost

all of us

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Actually my mistake, read your post too quick,

didn't realize you were only talking about liability

insurance. I dont think there is any requirment for coverage

other than a check to cover the premium; I purchased 1

and 3 million dollars malpractice insurance for my

acupuncture practice and it was actually pretty cheap, and

I'm not sure they even asked for my license. number.

MDs are the ones who really get screwed, there

malpractice rates are astronomical.

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If you are worried about getting sued you could

have your students sign a release, which is what they

do at Jivamukti and was also required at Guriji's

month-long seminar.<br><br>Beats payin' vig to the yoga

protection racket.<br><br>DMcG<br><br>PS if you are worried

about getting sued you probably SHOULD be worried about

getting sued.

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it's definitely a nice thought that waivers will

protect you in court, but the reality is unfortunately

that they really won't....i've been told by a lot of

people that lawyers easily work their way around waivers

like they were never signed....<br>ah, if only the

world weren't so bloody legalistic....

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