Guest guest Posted July 18, 2002 Report Share Posted July 18, 2002 FBL- I appreciate your honest opinions. I too, have many of the attributes that you describe for yourself (are you an Aries by any chance?) I have only been doing Ashtanga for 18 months now and claim to know nothing and willing to learn all I can. I am very, very, very, fortunate to have an outstanding teacher who's mentor is Guruji himself. He teaches me everything I need to know and pushes me only as far as I can go. Always encouraging and never, ever discouraging. He pushes me to go to all the workshops that i can from the greats who have taught him and I fully agree with your sentiment about learning from your teacher's teacher. I, too, agree that alot of people do pretend that they are "someone other then who they are," and i have met many of them along the way. I truly enjoy and have become friends with the ones that love Ashtanga and "quietly" "walk the walk." They are my inspirations. Have a great day. Margee > > funkybadlady [sMTP:no_reply] > Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:24 AM > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga Re: ** yo-shak... > > well... you really ought not to encourage me. FBL has been a > little on a tear lately and possibly may have crossed the line she > treads ever so carefully upon... > > I do not understand what moves people (yogini shakti you are > not the only one but you definitely qualify...) to give endless > advise about a subject matter they cannot even discuss without > "quoting scripture" and refuse to answer basic questions about > their credentials for giving ashtanga advise. > > If you were given permission to teach by Guruji in 1985 (17 years > ago) and but you no longer do ashtanga yourself or teach the > correct method - which you simply cannot do if you don't go to > Mysore regularly and study with your own teacher, then your > advise should be taken with a grain of salt or at least with this > information in mind - just be straight with us. > > What also makes me confused is this idea some people have > that to be a yogi, you have to adopt some kind of code of > behaviour commonly referred to by the pretentious phoney- > baloneys as "YOGIC" (and gets wielded as a weapon when > someone says something they don't like "You are not being > YOGIC") and adopt some kind of "imported from > India"appearance and an "Imported from India" name and start > pretending that life doesn't affect you because you have choosen > to be above us all and you have read the Hatha Yoga Pradipika > and maybe the yoga sutra of Patanjali... Yoga doesn't make you > GOD, it makes you a person, and there are all kinds of people > who do yoga. > > For example, someone like myself, (kind of trashy, outspoken, > opinionated, obnoxious, filthy-dirty minded, rude and fearless) > happens to be a disciplined yoga student with one hell of a > dedicated practice. So why all this phoney crap? All this "I have > arrived and I am here to impart my wisdom upon you" crap. I am > not impressed at all and I feel like protecting all the beginners > from this kind of crap as well. > > Here are some principals to a successful yoga experience: > > 1. NEVER give a yoga teacher money to teach you if you can give > their teacher money to teach you instead. > > 2. Never trust a "yoga teacher" who doesn't have a yoga teacher > of their own "A teacher without a teacher takes lessons from a > fool" It is a spiritual practice. Honesty is a primary principal. > There is no place for EGO or FALSE HUMILITY. (ps - for those > who are curious, false humility is well represented in yogini > shakti's recent post where she tells us all how she has adopted > an attitude of... blah blah blah.) > > 3. Never trust a teacher who answers questions with quotes > from the yoga sutras or any mysterious source that they cannot > or will not reveal. Especially if it makes you feel dumb. > > 4. This one is hard, but be really, really careful before you trust a > Westerner who has changed their name to something "Indian/ > Sanskrit" sounding. Ask them why they changed their name. > Giving up one's name is a very very serious matter in Hindu > culture and in the Vedic Tradition and is not something that you > do for yourself. Thats just gross, OK? Unless of course the > person has a mental illness of some kind, in which case it's > pathetic. > > 5. If they seem phoney to you, they ARE! Don't give them your > money. > > Bye and thank you for not deleting my posts. > > FBL > > > ashtangayoga, "tinazym" <tinazym@h...> wrote: > > Thank you, FBL. > > > > For expressing a lot of what I've been feeling about certain > > sanctimonious newbies who have inundated the board > recently. > > I am with you all the way. > > > > Now, if only aforementioned yoginis would just ease off and > fade > > back into the blessed obscurity from which they've come..... > > > > TZ > > > > Sponsor > > > <http://rd./M=228862.2128520.3581629.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=170506 > 0955:HM/A=1155069/R=0/*http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-1039-302 > > > > > ashtanga yoga > > > > Terms of Service > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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