Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Does anyone find that they need more sleep on the days that they are practicing the series? If anyone has some tricks to get less sleep please let me know.... Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2002 Report Share Posted July 29, 2002 ashtangayoga, "yogaboi" <yogaboi> wrote: > Does anyone find that they need more sleep on the days that they are > practicing the series? If anyone has some tricks to get less sleep > please let me know.... > > Thanks > Chris No tricks - I reckon that if you are practicing the full primary series you should get at least 8 hours sleep a night- maybe more if you are practicing 6 days a week. Any less and you are going into sleep debt, which will take the energy (and enjoyment) out of your practice. Also, you need a good diet and plenty of water to give the body chance to re-build and recover, otherwise you will feel slugish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 8 hours minimum...! that seems like a lot ... i thought i was just being lazy, but i too have been needing more sleep since starting ashtanga. I thought that yoga was supposed to reduce your need for sleep, purifying the body & mind was supposed to increase efficiency, not place an additional load on it ...i was always fascinated by the stories of socially involved swamis who got along on 2-3 hours a night... i wonder what's going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 it takes time to build stamina and the cleanse the body. after sometime you will most likely not need as much sleep. i found when i first started i was really needing sleep and not so much anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2002 Report Share Posted July 30, 2002 leadley wrote [[Also, you need a good diet and plenty of water to give the body chance to re-build and recover, otherwise you will feel slugish.]] ** I agree. Pages 36 & 38 of Guruji's book, /Yoga Mala/, discuss the proper diet for Ashtanga Yoga. Om Shanti ... Shakti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 > > Is it really true that we are practice something what we are going > > exhausted and tired from? I can't believe! Why we are doing this? We are doing it for the joy of it, for the transformation of self, for health... some thing are worth it, just because our own personal spiritual path has guided us in this direction at this time in our lives. Somehow ashtanga resonates with our being. Yoga .com has redesigned and relaunches. If you would like to contribute a yoga article (especially ashtanga), please contact me, shannon . Much appreciation. Shannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 I was recently re-reading some of my materials from a yoga instuctor I studied with in California. With some deep and focused visualization meditations, the body can become rejuvenated to the point of needing very little rest. Perhaps this is the secret of the Yogis that were mentioned in a previous message in this line. This is probably much easier for devotional swamis rather than those of us living in the modern industrialized information age culture. ashtangayoga, backbayyoga <no_reply> wrote: > it takes time to build stamina and the cleanse the body. after > sometime you will most likely not need as much sleep. i found when i > first started i was really needing sleep and not so much anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2002 Report Share Posted August 2, 2002 Wait a second please... The body always needs rest no matter how "advanced" or practiced you are at any kind of relaxation or visualization parctices. Such practices mentioned below as well as others are actually putting the body into a "rest" state - it also takes many years of practice to do this. So nobody is really going without rest - it's just a question of how it is accomplished. Sleep is good. Sleep a lot if you need to. Be aware if you are using it as an escape and stop doing that if that's the case. The longer you do ashtanga, the less rest and recovery time you will need - compared to the beginning which can mean a few years for some people. Although it does energize, it also wipes you out at the beginning because of the detoxifying effects of deep tissue streching and other significant changes in the body brought about by the re-aligning therapy of the peimary series. So don't worry if you need to sleep. Just sleep. It is really normal to need extra rest and fluids especially in the early years of practice and when you are doing some new poses that are really opening and streching deep tissue adhesions as well as when you are learning new poses - even years down the road, it will still happen. If you are tired and fall asleep then your body needs to sleep. There are no "shoulds" although it will make a difference over time and depending in your diet too. Some foods can make you heavy and lethargic and practicing yoga, especially ashtanga, will make you much more sensitive to this. Don't worry about it all at once. Over time you will get to know your body much better and it will all make sense. But sleep and drink lots of water - especially at first. By the way, dehydration can completely sap your energy as well. Being even slightly dehydrated can make you feel like you have low glycogen and you will feel sapped. Some people might like to brag about how they just feel energized all the time, but don't let anyone fool you - this is hardly the case for anybody. Everybody has their days when they are particularly tired or sluggish, no matter how long they have been doing yoga. There are practices and dietary remedies that can significantly reduce the amount of unnecessary stress and you learn this stuff over years of experimenting and learning from ayurvedic practicioners and other people who do yoga. Just keep practicing and you'll be fine. I slept a lot the first six months cause I was so knocked out by the detox and mind-blowing changes in my consciousness that Ashtanga created. FBL ashtangayoga, "silvermoonmdwf" < silvermoonmdwf@a...> wrote: > I was recently re-reading some of my materials from a yoga instuctor > I studied with in California. With some deep and focused > visualization meditations, the body can become rejuvenated to the > point of needing very little rest. Perhaps this is the secret of > the Yogis that were mentioned in a previous message in this line. > This is probably much easier for devotional swamis rather than those > of us living in the modern industrialized information age culture. > > ashtangayoga, backbayyoga <no_reply> wrote: > > it takes time to build stamina and the cleanse the body. after > > sometime you will most likely not need as much sleep. i found when > i > > first started i was really needing sleep and not so much anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Margee, it's not about aging, if there is stress in the face. If you look in the faces of participants of atheltic sports (running) you see the same - I think its an imbalance of effort and relaxation. Especially if you practice such "hard stuff" like ashtanga you need a lot of relaxation, may be more than we know. Lu > I have seen their faces and I think aging has alot to do with it! > Have a great day. > Margee > > > > > lu_38_de [sMTP:no_reply] > > Friday, August 02, 2002 2:50 AM > > ashtangayoga > > ashtanga yoga Re: Sleep and Ashtanga > > > > Hi Margee! > > you wrote: "I practice at 5:45am 5 days a week and during the day I > > have a good amount of energy but, come 9pm I am exhausted. It takes > > a lot of energy to do Ashtanga and create that fire within, so it is > > only natural that your body will feel tired later." > > > > Is it really true that we are practice something what we are going > > exhausted and tired from? I can't believe! Why we are doing this? Why > > you don't meditate, Zen or something like that. You'll get energy > > also > > there and will not get tired. It can't be a good method if it is > > takes so much energy to create a fire, and afterwards this fire will > > burn the body's energy away... There must be a misunderstanding. Are > > we doing it in a incorrect manner, or is the method not good for the > > human body? > > > > PS I feel the same like you. > > > > So this is not only kidding, it is a serious question I'm working > > with. And I give you this simple example: When someone is really > > relaxed (and I suppose you would say that relaxation is surely very > > very important for the human body), so at the first look the face is > > relaxed, the front, the eyes, the mouth. There are people with this > > relaxed faces - but they don't practice Ashtanga! If you look to all > > the books of our beloved Ashtanga teachers (only for example John > > Scott, Liz Larke, Lino Miele, David Swenson and other) would you say > > that their faces are relaxed? Take a look, it's amusing. If you can > > explain, please do it! Lu > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > <http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/le/lensexpress/lensexpress_468x60 b.gi > > f> > > Click here to find your contact lenses! > > <http://rd./M=225674.2075965.3644786.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=17 0506 > > 0955:HM/A=1153174/R=7/*http://www.lensexpress.com> > > > > > > ashtangayoga- > > > > > > > > Terms of Service > > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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