Guest guest Posted September 12, 2002 Report Share Posted September 12, 2002 I must say first off, that I totally agree with you. First, the sun salutations and then each asana, one at a time. I do believe though, that at sometime during the practice you may have to modify some. Speaking only for myself, I know that I have had to modify a bit when it comes to the asanas where I need to bind my hands to my feet. I cannot, for the life of me, get my hand to my feet and do it correctly on my own. Now, when my teacher helps me, that is a different story. I have stayed in the same asanas for what seems forever and I STILL CAN'T BIND ON MY OWN! So, do I never move on until I can bind. I think not. This is where I modify and do the pose as best as I can until I get to the next one. If I felt that I couldn't modify some (at times) then I wouldn't stay with this practice, what would be the sense. We all have different physical abilities and we have to take those into account. I still get so much from this practice and now I have "given up" the competitive feelings within myself to "conquer the pose" and I have been able to move forward with my Mysore practice without compromising it too much. Margee > > backbayyoga [sMTP:no_reply] > Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:30 AM > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga Re: Modifies Primary Series > > Ok. All this stuff about modifying...... > First a new student should just start out with doing the sun > salutations. Build those FIRST. Then add standing poses one at a > time. None of this skipping poses and all of that stuff. Just take it > slow. I think that it is wrong to tell people to tell people to do > the whole thing and modify. They are much better off starting with > less poses and actually learning them correctly. > > > > > Sponsor > > > <http://rd./M=233351.2287381.3722242.2225242/D=egroupweb/S=170506 > 0955:HM/A=1212975/R=0/*http://www.gotomypc.com/u/tr/yh/grp/300_mapG/g22lp? > Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl> > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=233351.2287381.3722242.2225242/D=egroupm > ail/S=:HM/A=1212975/rand=630788408> > > > ashtanga yoga > > > > Terms of Service > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 Ashtanga Yoga is part of the 8 limbed path, but we are talking about Ashtanga Yoga as taught by Pattabhi Jois. You will not here Iyengar teachers calling themselves Ashtanga teachers. ashtangayoga, Asha <ashakiran0> wrote: > > This is something I've had difficulty understanding. Ashtanga is an old word that means "Eight Limbs". So wouldn't it be correct for anyone teaching Patanjali's Eight Limb philosophy to call it Ashtanga? > I understand that it's irritating when people use titles that don't technically apply to them. And it can be misleading to people that want to learn about it. But it seems to me that the word Ashtanga could be used for all Raja yoga. > > Kathleen wrote: Just a side, I think it is inappropriate for someone > to refer to any vinyasa as Ashtanga that is not the > true series. Or, to call one's self a certified > Ashtanga teacher if they are not certified by Guruji. > Why not refer to yourself as a vinyasa teacher? > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 I also agree with Asha. Ashtanga is a common word in sanskrit literature. It is used as an adjective to several things. Mahabharata speaks about ashtanga budhi (intelligence), ashtanga Margas of which four is Pitr marga and four is Deva margas. Anyone teching yoga can tell they are teaching ashtanga yoga if they mention the eight limbs. It is not a patentable word by one guru in india which is a country which has produces thousands of guru's, muni's, sidha's and a few rishi's during its history. Most of the studios which teach "Ashtanga Yoga" in the west concentrate on the Asana part. They hardly touch on Yama and niyama(i would assume lot of westerners eat meat and still practice physical yoga). Pradeep --- Asha <ashakiran0 wrote: > > This is something I've had difficulty > understanding. Ashtanga is an old word that means > "Eight Limbs". So wouldn't it be correct for anyone > teaching Patanjali's Eight Limb philosophy to call > it Ashtanga? > I understand that it's irritating when people use > titles that don't technically apply to them. And it > can be misleading to people that want to learn about > it. But it seems to me that the word Ashtanga could > be used for all Raja yoga. > > Kathleen wrote: Just a side, I think it is > inappropriate for someone > to refer to any vinyasa as Ashtanga that is not the > true series. Or, to call one's self a certified > Ashtanga teacher if they are not certified by > Guruji. > Why not refer to yourself as a vinyasa teacher? > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > News - Today's headlines http://news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 I don't really see myself as being caught up with either of the words. I used the Raja, because it's an umbrella term that aided me in expressing my thoughts. I understand that this board is focused on Ashtanga Yoga as taught by Pattabhi Jois. But I just don't understand why the word Ashtanga can only be used by him now. That word was in use long before he was even alive. And it's a just a word. pratibha_the_mirror wrote:If 'ashtang' as a word is what you choose not to get trapped in, then why another word 'rajyog' ??? -regards. PS: words remains easiest way to to 'vikalpa' ashtangayoga, Asha <ashakiran0> wrote: > > This is something I've had difficulty understanding. Ashtanga is an old word that means "Eight Limbs". So wouldn't it be correct for anyone teaching Patanjali's Eight Limb philosophy to call it Ashtanga? > I understand that it's irritating when people use titles that don't technically apply to them. And it can be misleading to people that want to learn about it. But it seems to me that the word Ashtanga could be used for all Raja yoga. > > Kathleen wrote: Just a side, I think it is inappropriate for someone > to refer to any vinyasa as Ashtanga that is not the > true series. Or, to call one's self a certified > Ashtanga teacher if they are not certified by Guruji. > Why not refer to yourself as a vinyasa teacher? > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > ashtanga yoga News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2002 Report Share Posted September 13, 2002 The whole point is that there are thousands of well knowledgeable gurus in india who are not students of krishnamacharya. I believe iyengar and jois was disciples of the same guru. Any body can claim themselves as an Ashtanga yoga teacher if they teach Ashtanga yoga which is the only yoga there is. I respect both of these people for their knowledge and spreading the yoga knowledge, but ashtanga means eight limbs, just like chaturbujam means four armed. Anything with eight limbs or body parts can be called ashtanga. Pradeep --- backbayyoga <no_reply> wrote: > Ashtanga Yoga is part of the 8 limbed path, but we > are talking about > Ashtanga Yoga as taught by Pattabhi Jois. You will > not here Iyengar > teachers calling themselves Ashtanga teachers. > ashtangayoga, Asha <ashakiran0> > wrote: > > > > This is something I've had difficulty > understanding. Ashtanga is > an old word that means "Eight Limbs". So wouldn't it > be correct for > anyone teaching Patanjali's Eight Limb philosophy to > call it > Ashtanga? > > I understand that it's irritating when people use > titles that don't > technically apply to them. And it can be misleading > to people that > want to learn about it. But it seems to me that the > word Ashtanga > could be used for all Raja yoga. > > > > Kathleen wrote: Just a side, I think it is > inappropriate for > someone > > to refer to any vinyasa as Ashtanga that is not > the > > true series. Or, to call one's self a certified > > Ashtanga teacher if they are not certified by > Guruji. > > Why not refer to yourself as a vinyasa teacher? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > News - Today's headlines > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > News - Today's headlines http://news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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