what is up with you people?

[Guest guest]

i totally agree with you tonya, im shocked by the attitude and

rudeness of some of the people here...even if you feel that someone

is in the wrong there are ways of saying and discussing things that

doesnt cause bad feeling...ive only been visiting here for a few

weeks but im sure that this group doesnt accurately portray the broad

spectrum of the ashtanga community.ive never met anyone in any of my

classes that has answered me in such an insulting way when i asked a

question (even if it was a dumb one.)

 

 

ashtangayoga, "Tonya Makowski" <trmakowski> wrote:

> Please be careful of what you call a "...charlatan teacher who

wants

> to make a buck off of you by satisfying your ego and not teaching

you

> correctly..." considering I am offering a method of postures to

allow

> people to explore Ashtanga yoga through an internet message board.

> Last time I check this is a free service... well at least I don't

get

> paid to offer my insight as a teacher on this site. Remember the

> philosophy guiding yoga, trancendence of ego. Sometimes you need

to

> modify, plenty do and derive great benefits and progress in thier

> ASHTANGA practice. I admire the general idea of this site that

> everyone studying Ashtanga yoga needs to do so under guidance of a

> teacher. Now, studying under a teacher offers a deepening of

> practice, and insight into the philosphical aspects of yoga, but as

a

> beginner taking time to work postures, explore a few public

classes,

> read some texts and see different approaches and teaching methods

> allows the student to take yoga into thier life, assimilating it as

> they see fit. If a deep understanding and progression into the

world

> of yoga is your desire, taking up practice with a teacher is highly

> reccommended. Beginners, begin where you may. "Do YOUR practice

and

> all is coming", as Gurujii is popuarly quoted as saying.

>

> This message board has taught me that the yoga community is close-

> minded and splintered, hardly my hopes for a community with the

basis

> of yoga. At no point have I attacked your personal method or

> approach. A beginner student asked where to start, unable to work

> under the guidance of a teacher, I simply offered my insight based

on

> my exprience. You may do the same, but do not turn this into a

name-

> calling, and discrediting forum. At least discuss things you feel

> strongly about, ask my reason for modifying. Have I noticed that

> beginners are able to get into thier practice by modifying? Did I

> begin my study of Ashtanga by modifying? If so, where is my

practice

> now?

>

> Continue on with your study of yoga in your own means. Offer

insight

> into others journey. Maintain the integrity of the yoga

community.

> Reflect on the ultimate purpose of yoga...now are your comments

> congruent with all of this?

[Guest guest]

I think that this a good post. The point that some are missing is

that doing the whole series and of all of that is not the traditional

way that Ashtanga is taught. You may do the whole series and not be

able to do things, but respect that this is not how it is

traditionally taught. We have students in mysore practice who only do

a few standing poses and that is all. I am sure that they would feel

like they are getting more of workout if they could do the whole

thing, but that is not what this practice is about.

 

 

ashtangayoga, Michelle Kelner <michkelner> wrote:

> I recently did a workshop in New York with Lino Miele.

> I should mention that I am fairly new Astanga student

> and while I can get into most postures from the

> Primary Seriers, there are some that I just cannot do

> yet. I asked Lino this exact question that everyone

> seems so up-in-arms about - the should you modify

> question. He basically said that no you should not

> modify but you can ADAPT postures for the beginner

> practitioner. He also said that he did this himself

> when starting his practice. What I took away for

> MYSELF is that since I have studies other types of

> yoga for several years (Jivamukti, Bikram, Hatha) and

> have the physical stamina to get through the full

> primary series (with certain postures ADAPTED to what

> my body is currently capable of) that I would rather

> continue to do a full practice than to stop (for

> instance) at Ardha Baddha Padmottanasana (I have less

> that great hip flexibility) as I can get into most of

> the rest of the postures that follow. Also I should

> mention that I was recently in London and practiced at

> a lovely place called Triyoga where several teachers

> showed me some great ADAPTATIONS which I know will

> help my body to eventually get into the full posture.

> So if anyone out there is in London or will be

> traveling to London, I recommend it highly.

> --- Tonya Makowski <trmakowski> wrote:

> > Please be careful of what you call a "...charlatan

> > teacher who wants

> > to make a buck off of you by satisfying your ego and

> > not teaching you

> > correctly..." considering I am offering a method of

> > postures to allow

> > people to explore Ashtanga yoga through an internet

> > message board.

> > Last time I check this is a free service... well at

> > least I don't get

> > paid to offer my insight as a teacher on this site.

> > Remember the

> > philosophy guiding yoga, trancendence of ego.

> > Sometimes you need to

> > modify, plenty do and derive great benefits and

> > progress in thier

> > ASHTANGA practice. I admire the general idea of

> > this site that

> > everyone studying Ashtanga yoga needs to do so under

> > guidance of a

> > teacher. Now, studying under a teacher offers a

> > deepening of

> > practice, and insight into the philosphical aspects

> > of yoga, but as a

> > beginner taking time to work postures, explore a few

> > public classes,

> > read some texts and see different approaches and

> > teaching methods

> > allows the student to take yoga into thier life,

> > assimilating it as

> > they see fit. If a deep understanding and

> > progression into the world

> > of yoga is your desire, taking up practice with a

> > teacher is highly

> > reccommended. Beginners, begin where you may. "Do

> > YOUR practice and

> > all is coming", as Gurujii is popuarly quoted as

> > saying.

> >

> > This message board has taught me that the yoga

> > community is close-

> > minded and splintered, hardly my hopes for a

> > community with the basis

> > of yoga. At no point have I attacked your personal

> > method or

> > approach. A beginner student asked where to start,

> > unable to work

> > under the guidance of a teacher, I simply offered my

> > insight based on

> > my exprience. You may do the same, but do not turn

> > this into a name-

> > calling, and discrediting forum. At least discuss

> > things you feel

> > strongly about, ask my reason for modifying. Have I

> > noticed that

> > beginners are able to get into thier practice by

> > modifying? Did I

> > begin my study of Ashtanga by modifying? If so,

> > where is my practice

> > now?

> >

> > Continue on with your study of yoga in your own

> > means. Offer insight

> > into others journey. Maintain the integrity of the

> > yoga community.

> > Reflect on the ultimate purpose of yoga...now are

> > your comments

> > congruent with all of this?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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