Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on the whole site for the teachers you suggested should be working on their own practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from the single images that flash by on the home page!!!!! how can you tell ANYTHING from this? maybe you to could use a little humbling. ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey <no_reply> wrote: > Brianna, > > Judging by the website for your school > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on their own > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires discipline > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of thought > dooesn't really apply. > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of yoga is > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, with little or > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of classical > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" of poses. > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses to > participate." > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does not appear to > be qualified. > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really teaching a > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to study with > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be a > humbling and enlightening experience. > > Ole! > > > > > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens <brianna@e...> > wrote: > > > > Hello all, and namaste! > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion . . . I > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles, > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I believe you > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but as folks > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being the name for > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs of which have > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. Jois). > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's not really > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you to a > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha yoga (any > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific goal of > preparing and training the body and the mind for meditation. I was > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the spirit to > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do and the order > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As long as your > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening their minds > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you have done your > job as a teacher. > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its creation over > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by the > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also, there have > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never practiced asana. > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and you're doing the > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once you open the > door, the light starts to come pouring in! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have > to do." > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the pose I highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she was, I would probably know her because there are only a few women doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version of ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that if a person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose correctly, especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page of their website. I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary series from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach these girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these pictures. For me? There is no way I would give these women my money to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I would offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use some help. FBL ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" <logan8erry> wrote: > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on the whole > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on their own > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from the > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!! > how can you tell ANYTHING from this? > maybe you to could use a little humbling. > > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey <no_reply> wrote: > > Brianna, > > > > Judging by the website for your school > > > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html > > > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on their own > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires > discipline > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of thought > > dooesn't really apply. > > > > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class > > > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of yoga is > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, with little > or > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of classical > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" of > poses. > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses to > > participate." > > > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does not appear > to > > be qualified. > > > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really teaching a > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to study > with > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be a > > humbling and enlightening experience. > > > > Ole! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens < brianna@e...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, and namaste! > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion . . .. I > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles, > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I believe you > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but as folks > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being the name for > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs of which > have > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. Jois). > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's not > really > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you to a > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha yoga (any > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific goal of > > preparing and training the body and the mind for meditation. I was > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the spirit to > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do and the > order > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As long as > your > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening their > minds > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you have done > your > > job as a teacher. > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its creation over > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by the > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also, there > have > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never practiced > asana. > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and you're doing the > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once you open > the > > door, the light starts to come pouring in! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you > have > > to do." > > > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 $5000 fee. FBL ashtangayoga, narayan <dcyoga> wrote: > > HI FBL, > Are you ever in DC? You could come do a workshop for us...(www.dcyoga,com) > Do you meditate? > Prema > narayan > > funkybadlady wrote:It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing > ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the > second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it > incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the pose I > highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she was, I > would probably know her because there are only a few women > doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version of > ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So > you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that if a > person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose correctly, > especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page of > their website. > > I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary series > from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach these > girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these pictures. > For me? There is no way I would give these women my money > to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a > teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I would > offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use some > help. > > FBL > > > ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" <logan8erry> wrote: > > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on the > whole > > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on their > own > > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from the > > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!! > > how can you tell ANYTHING from this? > > maybe you to could use a little humbling. > > > > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey <no_reply> > wrote: > > > Brianna, > > > > > > Judging by the website for your school > > > > > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html > > > > > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on their > own > > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires > > discipline > > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of thought > > > dooesn't really apply. > > > > > > > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class > > > > > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of yoga > is > > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, with > little > > or > > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of > classical > > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" of > > poses. > > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses to > > > participate." > > > > > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does not > appear > > to > > > be qualified. > > > > > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really > teaching a > > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to study > > with > > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be a > > > humbling and enlightening experience. > > > > > > Ole! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens < > brianna@e...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello all, and namaste! > > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion .. . > . I > > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles, > > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I > believe you > > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but as > folks > > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being the > name for > > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs of which > > have > > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. Jois). > > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's not > > really > > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you to a > > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha yoga (any > > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific > goal of > > > preparing and training the body and the mind for meditation. I > was > > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the spirit > to > > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do > and the > > order > > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As long as > > your > > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening their > > minds > > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you have > done > > your > > > job as a teacher. > > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its > creation over > > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by the > > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also, > there > > have > > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never > practiced > > asana. > > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and you're > doing the > > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once you open > > the > > > door, the light starts to come pouring in! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what > you > > have > > > to do." > > > > > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > ashtangayoga- > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Take care of your Blessed Selves Narayan \ > dcyoga - 5th floor > 1635 Connecticut Ave NW > Washington, DC 20009 > (202) 232-2926 > www.dcyoga.com > > > > > Autos - Get free new car price quotes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 $6,000 fee. TZ ashtangayoga, funkybadlady <no_reply> wrote: > $5000 fee. > > FBL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 these are just pictures, where does it say anywhere that they are pictures of these women doing practice? how do you know they werent told how to stand by some non-yoga web photo taking person? -- In ashtangayoga, funkybadlady <no_reply> wrote: > It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing > ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the > second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it > incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the pose I > highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she was, I > would probably know her because there are only a few women > doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version of > ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So > you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that if a > person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose correctly, > especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page of > their website. > > I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary series > from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach these > girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these pictures. > For me? There is no way I would give these women my money > to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a > teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I would > offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use some > help. > > FBL > > > ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" <logan8erry> wrote: > > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on the > whole > > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on their > own > > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from the > > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!! > > how can you tell ANYTHING from this? > > maybe you to could use a little humbling. > > > > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey <no_reply> > wrote: > > > Brianna, > > > > > > Judging by the website for your school > > > > > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html > > > > > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on their > own > > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires > > discipline > > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of thought > > > dooesn't really apply. > > > > > > > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class > > > > > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of yoga > is > > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, with > little > > or > > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of > classical > > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" of > > poses. > > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses to > > > participate." > > > > > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does not > appear > > to > > > be qualified. > > > > > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really > teaching a > > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to study > > with > > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be a > > > humbling and enlightening experience. > > > > > > Ole! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens < > brianna@e...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello all, and namaste! > > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion . . > . I > > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles, > > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I > believe you > > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but as > folks > > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being the > name for > > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs of which > > have > > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. Jois). > > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's not > > really > > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you to a > > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha yoga (any > > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific > goal of > > > preparing and training the body and the mind for meditation. I > was > > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the spirit > to > > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do > and the > > order > > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As long as > > your > > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening their > > minds > > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you have > done > > your > > > job as a teacher. > > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its > creation over > > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by the > > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also, > there > > have > > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never > practiced > > asana. > > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and you're > doing the > > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once you open > > the > > > door, the light starts to come pouring in! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what > you > > have > > > to do." > > > > > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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