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I am truly amazed (and saddened) that this group is still discussing the

pictures of the instructors on the website for my studio.

I snapped those pics 10 minutes before class . . and I told them that they all

needed to be in vertical positions so that the animation would have all pictures

of the same size and shape.

Can you psychics really tell how long a person has practiced by looking at a

2-second picture of them? If so, your powers are better than mine . . . when I

hire people I actually have to INTERVIEW them first and WATCH them practice!

Besides which, I'm not sure where you guys got the idea that we are an ashtanga

studio, because we are not! We hold two Ashtanga classes per week. Our

Ashtanga teachers (and no you cannot tell a bloody thing by looking at my

picturea . . .geez! ) are very qualified . .. all are certified in

Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow yoga, have practiced for many years, and are wonderful

instructors. They are practicing wtih P. Jois today. Most of the teachers you

see on the site are hatha teachers.

Anyway, I definitely feel as though I should from this group. I have

no need to receive such hostile emails . . .. You have not welcomed me into your

community (with a couple of exceptions of gentler folks who came to my defense

after the harsh commentary) .. . . in fact, I find this community more

uncomfortable than the offices I used to work in, with all the conservative

folks in suits walking around.

I do not see ahimsa practiced here.

I see some very insecure, judgmental people who have a need to rank people and

categorize them as to how yogic they believe they are (based on insufficient

information and almost no detail at all) . . . . It's like high school! Am I

cool enough? Guess not.

Anyway . . . I wish you all the best of luck . . . and to those of you who do

not share these egotistical tendencies, I congratulate you.

And just to restate my original point . . . . it's not about the asana. It's

obvious from some of the commentary that there are many instructors out there

who are excellent athletes on the mat, but limit their pratice of yoga to the

mat . . . very disappointing, indeed. You would definitely not find a job at my

studio!

To the rest of you . . . tons of love and namaste. I know you are the majority

out there . . . and so I stay optimistic.

Cheers.

 

 

ashtanga yoga

 

 

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There are 4 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in this digest:

 

1. Re: !

"tinazym"

2. Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend!

backbayyoga

3. Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17.

"yogalita"

4. Re: !

"logan8erry"

 

 

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Message: 1

Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:46:01 -0000

"tinazym"

Re: !

 

$6,000 fee.

TZ

 

ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote:

> $5000 fee.

>

> FBL

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Message: 2

Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:30:23 -0000

backbayyoga

Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend!

 

Hi! Some of you may be coming already, but if you are not, we have

some space open for drop ins on a first come, first serve basis. You

need to arrive 15 minutes before the scheduled time to register.

Please visit http://www.backbayyoga.com for details.

 

Namaste,

Lynne

 

 

 

 

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Message: 3

Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:12:46 -0000

"yogalita"

Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17.

 

hi fellow yoginis, any of you attending the NY yoga conference?

 

 

 

 

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Message: 4

Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:15:31 -0000

"logan8erry"

Re: !

 

these are just pictures, where does it say anywhere that they are

pictures of these women doing practice? how do you know they werent

told how to stand by some non-yoga web photo taking person?

 

 

-- In ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote:

> It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing

> ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the

> second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it

> incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the pose I

> highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she was, I

> would probably know her because there are only a few women

> doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version of

> ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So

> you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that if a

> person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose correctly,

> especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page of

> their website.

>

> I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary series

> from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach these

> girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these

pictures.

> For me? There is no way I would give these women my money

> to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a

> teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I would

> offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use some

> help.

>

> FBL

>

>

> ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" wrote:

> > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on the

> whole

> > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on their

> own

> > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from the

> > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!!

> > how can you tell ANYTHING from this?

> > maybe you to could use a little humbling.

> >

> > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey

> wrote:

> > > Brianna,

> > >

> > > Judging by the website for your school

> > >

> > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html

> > >

> > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on their

> own

> > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires

> > discipline

> > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of thought

> > > dooesn't really apply.

> > >

> > >

> > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class

> > >

> > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of yoga

> is

> > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, with

> little

> > or

> > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of

> classical

> > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" of

> > poses.

> > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses to

> > > participate."

> > >

> > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does not

> appear

> > to

> > > be qualified.

> > >

> > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really

> teaching a

> > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to study

> > with

> > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be a

> > > humbling and enlightening experience.

> > >

> > > Ole!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens <

> brianna@e...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello all, and namaste!

> > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion . .

> . I

> > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles,

> > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I

> believe you

> > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but as

> folks

> > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being the

> name for

> > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs of

which

> > have

> > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. Jois).

> > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's not

> > really

> > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you to

a

> > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha yoga

(any

> > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific

> goal of

> > > preparing and training the body and the mind for meditation. I

> was

> > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the spirit

> to

> > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do

> and the

> > order

> > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As long

as

> > your

> > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening their

> > minds

> > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you have

> done

> > your

> > > job as a teacher.

> > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its

> creation over

> > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by the

> > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also,

> there

> > have

> > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never

> practiced

> > asana.

> > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and you're

> doing the

> > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once you

open

> > the

> > > door, the light starts to come pouring in!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what

> you

> > have

> > > to do."

> > > >

> > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher

> > > >

> > > >

 

 

 

 

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