Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Dear Brianna, It is clear that no one can judge the ability of a teacher from a picture. If your ashtanga teachers are certified by Pattabi Jois , you need no more certification from anyone - for that matter nor do they. Cheers ! Have a nice Suryanamaskar. Sam On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 ashtanga yoga wrote : >------------------------ Sponsor > > >ashtangayoga > > >------ > >There is 1 message in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Digest Number 189 > Brianna Politzer Stevens ><brianna > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:11:59 -0700 (PDT) > Brianna Politzer Stevens <brianna >Re: Digest Number 189 > > >I am truly amazed (and saddened) that this group is still >discussing the pictures of the instructors on the website for my >studio. >I snapped those pics 10 minutes before class . . and I told them >that they all needed to be in vertical positions so that the >animation would have all pictures of the same size and shape. >Can you psychics really tell how long a person has practiced by >looking at a 2-second picture of them? If so, your powers are >better than mine . . . when I hire people I actually have to >INTERVIEW them first and WATCH them practice! >Besides which, I'm not sure where you guys got the idea that we >are an ashtanga studio, because we are not! We hold two Ashtanga >classes per week. Our Ashtanga teachers (and no you cannot tell >a bloody thing by looking at my picturea . . .geez! ) are very >qualified . .. all are certified in Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow yoga, >have practiced for many years, and are wonderful instructors. >They are practicing wtih P. Jois today. Most of the teachers you >see on the site are hatha teachers. >Anyway, I definitely feel as though I should from >this group. I have no need to receive such hostile emails . . .. >You have not welcomed me into your community (with a couple of >exceptions of gentler folks who came to my defense after the >harsh commentary) .. . . in fact, I find this community more >uncomfortable than the offices I used to work in, with all the >conservative folks in suits walking around. >I do not see ahimsa practiced here. >I see some very insecure, judgmental people who have a need to >rank people and categorize them as to how yogic they believe they >are (based on insufficient information and almost no detail at >all) . . . . It's like high school! Am I cool enough? Guess >not. >Anyway . . . I wish you all the best of luck . . . and to those >of you who do not share these egotistical tendencies, I >congratulate you. >And just to restate my original point . . . . it's not about the >asana. It's obvious from some of the commentary that there are >many instructors out there who are excellent athletes on the mat, >but limit their pratice of yoga to the mat . . . very >disappointing, indeed. You would definitely not find a job at my >studio! >To the rest of you . . . tons of love and namaste. I know you >are the majority out there . . . and so I stay optimistic. >Cheers. > > >ashtangayoga > > >------ > >There are 4 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > >1. Re: ! > "tinazym" >2. Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend! > backbayyoga >3. Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17. > "yogalita" >4. Re: ! > "logan8erry" > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 >Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:46:01 -0000 > "tinazym" >Re: ! > >$6,000 fee. >TZ > >ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote: > > $5000 fee. > > > > FBL > > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 >Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:30:23 -0000 > backbayyoga >Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend! > >Hi! Some of you may be coming already, but if you are not, we >have >some space open for drop ins on a first come, first serve basis. >You >need to arrive 15 minutes before the scheduled time to >register. >Please visit http://www.backbayyoga.com for details. > >Namaste, >Lynne > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 3 >Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:12:46 -0000 > "yogalita" >Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17. > >hi fellow yoginis, any of you attending the NY yoga conference? > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 4 >Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:15:31 -0000 > "logan8erry" >Re: ! > >these are just pictures, where does it say anywhere that they >are >pictures of these women doing practice? how do you know they >werent >told how to stand by some non-yoga web photo taking person? > > >-- In ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote: > > It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing > > ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the > > second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it > > incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the >pose I > > highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she >was, I > > would probably know her because there are only a few women > > doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version >of > > ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So > > you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that >if a > > person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose >correctly, > > especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page >of > > their website. > > > > I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary >series > > from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach >these > > girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these >pictures. > > For me? There is no way I would give these women my money > > to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a > > teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I >would > > offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use >some > > help. > > > > FBL > > > > > > ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" wrote: > > > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on >the > > whole > > > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on >their > > own > > > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from >the > > > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!! > > > how can you tell ANYTHING from this? > > > maybe you to could use a little humbling. > > > > > > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey > > wrote: > > > > Brianna, > > > > > > > > Judging by the website for your school > > > > > > > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html > > > > > > > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on >their > > own > > > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires > > > discipline > > > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of >thought > > > > dooesn't really apply. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class > > > > > > > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of >yoga > > is > > > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses, >with > > little > > > or > > > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of > > classical > > > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series" >of > > > poses. > > > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses >to > > > > participate." > > > > > > > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does >not > > appear > > > to > > > > be qualified. > > > > > > > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really > > teaching a > > > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to >study > > > with > > > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be >a > > > > humbling and enlightening experience. > > > > > > > > Ole! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens < > > brianna@e...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, and namaste! > > > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion >. . > > . I > > > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles, > > > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I > > believe you > > > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but >as > > folks > > > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being >the > > name for > > > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs >of >which > > > have > > > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P. >Jois). > > > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's >not > > > really > > > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you >to >a > > > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha >yoga >(any > > > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific > > goal of > > > > preparing and training the body and the mind for >meditation. I > > was > > > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the >spirit > > to > > > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do > > and the > > > order > > > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As >long >as > > > your > > > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening >their > > > minds > > > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you >have > > done > > > your > > > > job as a teacher. > > > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its > > creation over > > > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by >the > > > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also, > > there > > > have > > > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never > > practiced > > > asana. > > > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and >you're > > doing the > > > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once >you >open > > > the > > > > door, the light starts to come pouring in! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do >what > > you > > > have > > > > to do." > > > > > > > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > >"First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you >have to do." > >--Epictetus, Greek philosopher > > > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > for books about india http://www.geocities.com/saslekh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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