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Dear Brianna,

 

It is clear that no one can judge the ability of a teacher from a

picture.

 

If your ashtanga teachers are certified by Pattabi Jois , you need

no more certification from anyone - for that matter nor do they.

 

Cheers ! Have a nice Suryanamaskar.

Sam

 

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 ashtanga yoga wrote :

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>There is 1 message in this issue.

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>Topics in this digest:

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> 1. Re: Digest Number 189

> Brianna Politzer Stevens

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>Message: 1

> Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:11:59 -0700 (PDT)

> Brianna Politzer Stevens <brianna

>Re: Digest Number 189

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>I am truly amazed (and saddened) that this group is still

>discussing the pictures of the instructors on the website for my

>studio.

>I snapped those pics 10 minutes before class . . and I told them

>that they all needed to be in vertical positions so that the

>animation would have all pictures of the same size and shape.

>Can you psychics really tell how long a person has practiced by

>looking at a 2-second picture of them? If so, your powers are

>better than mine . . . when I hire people I actually have to

>INTERVIEW them first and WATCH them practice!

>Besides which, I'm not sure where you guys got the idea that we

>are an ashtanga studio, because we are not! We hold two Ashtanga

>classes per week. Our Ashtanga teachers (and no you cannot tell

>a bloody thing by looking at my picturea . . .geez! ) are very

>qualified . .. all are certified in Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow yoga,

>have practiced for many years, and are wonderful instructors.

>They are practicing wtih P. Jois today. Most of the teachers you

>see on the site are hatha teachers.

>Anyway, I definitely feel as though I should from

>this group. I have no need to receive such hostile emails . . ..

>You have not welcomed me into your community (with a couple of

>exceptions of gentler folks who came to my defense after the

>harsh commentary) .. . . in fact, I find this community more

>uncomfortable than the offices I used to work in, with all the

>conservative folks in suits walking around.

>I do not see ahimsa practiced here.

>I see some very insecure, judgmental people who have a need to

>rank people and categorize them as to how yogic they believe they

>are (based on insufficient information and almost no detail at

>all) . . . . It's like high school! Am I cool enough? Guess

>not.

>Anyway . . . I wish you all the best of luck . . . and to those

>of you who do not share these egotistical tendencies, I

>congratulate you.

>And just to restate my original point . . . . it's not about the

>asana. It's obvious from some of the commentary that there are

>many instructors out there who are excellent athletes on the mat,

>but limit their pratice of yoga to the mat . . . very

>disappointing, indeed. You would definitely not find a job at my

>studio!

>To the rest of you . . . tons of love and namaste. I know you

>are the majority out there . . . and so I stay optimistic.

>Cheers.

>

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>ashtangayoga

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>There are 4 messages in this issue.

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>Topics in this digest:

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>1. Re: !

> "tinazym"

>2. Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend!

> backbayyoga

>3. Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17.

> "yogalita"

>4. Re: !

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>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:46:01 -0000

> "tinazym"

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>$6,000 fee.

>TZ

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>ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote:

> > $5000 fee.

> >

> > FBL

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>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:30:23 -0000

> backbayyoga

>Boston Ashtangis Drop in for Manju Jois this weekend!

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>Hi! Some of you may be coming already, but if you are not, we

>have

>some space open for drop ins on a first come, first serve basis.

>You

>need to arrive 15 minutes before the scheduled time to

>register.

>Please visit http://www.backbayyoga.com for details.

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>Namaste,

>Lynne

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>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:12:46 -0000

> "yogalita"

>Yoga Conference in New York, Oct 17.

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>hi fellow yoginis, any of you attending the NY yoga conference?

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>Fri, 27 Sep 2002 21:15:31 -0000

> "logan8erry"

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>these are just pictures, where does it say anywhere that they

>are

>pictures of these women doing practice? how do you know they

>werent

>told how to stand by some non-yoga web photo taking person?

>

>

>-- In ashtangayoga, funkybadlady wrote:

> > It is obvious that neither one of these women are doing

> > ashtanga yoga. Neither "pose" is part of ashtanga except the

> > second one I think is from fourth series but she is doing it

> > incorrectly and from the looks of the way she is doing the

>pose I

> > highly doubt that she is able to do fourth series and if she

>was, I

> > would probably know her because there are only a few women

> > doing fourth series. Also the "tree" pose is a baby version

>of

> > ardhabaddhapadmottasana and is never done in Ashtanga. So

> > you can tell quite a bit from the photos. One would hope that

>if a

> > person says they are a teacher that they can do a pose

>correctly,

> > especially if they choose the picture to be on the first page

>of

> > their website.

> >

> > I think it is safe to say that anyone who knows primary

>series

> > from a qualified teacher would probably be able to teach

>these

> > girls a thing or two. That is what I can tell from these

>pictures.

> > For me? There is no way I would give these women my money

> > to teach me. I would probably ask them if they would like a

> > teacher who can teach Beginning Ashtanga correctly and I

>would

> > offer my services. They look, to me, like they could use

>some

> > help.

> >

> > FBL

> >

> >

> > ashtangayoga, "logan8erry" wrote:

> > > senor_pinche!...i visited the link you pasted and looked on

>the

> > whole

> > > site for the teachers you suggested should be working on

>their

> > own

> > > practices...then i realised.... you made this judgement from

>the

> > > single images that flash by on the home page!!!!!

> > > how can you tell ANYTHING from this?

> > > maybe you to could use a little humbling.

> > >

> > > ashtangayoga, senor_pinche_wey

> > wrote:

> > > > Brianna,

> > > >

> > > > Judging by the website for your school

> > > >

> > > > http://www.eden-yoga.com/index.html

> > > >

> > > > It looks like the teachers there should be working on

>their

> > own

> > > > practices a bit more. Ashtanga is hard work and requires

> > > discipline

> > > > and dedication. The "if it feels good do it" school of

>thought

> > > > dooesn't really apply.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Your definition of your ashtanga power yoga class

> > > >

> > > > "Ashtanga/Power Yoga: This vigorous, aerobic style of

>yoga

> > is

> > > > characterized by a specific sequence of flowing poses,

>with

> > little

> > > or

> > > > no rest in between. Class begins with several rounds of

> > classical

> > > > Sun Salutations, followed by the Ashtanga "primary series"

>of

> > > poses.

> > > > Students should have knowledge of the basic yoga poses

>to

> > > > participate."

> > > >

> > > > is a little bit narrow. The teacher, Amanda Kelso does

>not

> > appear

> > > to

> > > > be qualified.

> > > >

> > > > Why throw in the word "ashtanga" when you are really

> > teaching a

> > > > vinayas a flow class. I hope you take the opportunity to

>study

> > > with

> > > > Guruji when he is in San Francisco next week. It should be

>a

> > > > humbling and enlightening experience.

> > > >

> > > > Ole!

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> > > > ashtangayoga, Brianna Politzer Stevens <

> > brianna@e...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello all, and namaste!

> > > > > I just joined this group and am amazed at the discussion

>. .

> > . I

> > > > own a small yoga studio where we teach many styles,

> > > > including "Ashtanga/Vinyasa Flow Yoga" which is, what I

> > believe you

> > > > are all discussing when you say "Ashtanga" yoga . . (but

>as

> > folks

> > > > have said here, "Ashtanga" is really a misnomer, being

>the

> > name for

> > > > the entire eight-limbed path of yoga . . . seven limbs

>of

>which

> > > have

> > > > nothing to do with asana, the primary series, or P.

>Jois).

> > > > > I just wanted to remind you all of something . .. It's

>not

> > > really

> > > > about the asanas . . . The asanas are a tool to bring you

>to

>a

> > > > higher level . . . . nothing more. And, in fact, hatha

>yoga

>(any

> > > > yoga involving movement) was developed with the specific

> > goal of

> > > > preparing and training the body and the mind for

>meditation. I

> > was

> > > > taught that the goal of yoga was to go inward, allow the

>spirit

> > to

> > > > emerge, and become one's own teacher. The poses you do

> > and the

> > > order

> > > > you do them in, I believe, is practically irrelevant. As

>long

>as

> > > your

> > > > students are tuning into their breath and slowly opening

>their

> > > minds

> > > > to a new way of thinking, they are doing yoga, and you

>have

> > done

> > > your

> > > > job as a teacher.

> > > > > I know that yoga has changed dramatically since its

> > creation over

> > > > 5,000 years ago . . . would you say that the yoga done by

>the

> > > > ancients was not proper or correct? Of course not. Also,

> > there

> > > have

> > > > been many yogis (Gandhi, for example) who have never

> > practiced

> > > asana.

> > > > > Do what feels good to you and your students, and

>you're

> > doing the

> > > > right thing . . . whether it's "pure" or not . . . once

>you

>open

> > > the

> > > > door, the light starts to come pouring in!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "First say to yourself what you would be; and then do

>what

> > you

> > > have

> > > > to do."

> > > > >

> > > > > --Epictetus, Greek philosopher

> > > > >

> > > > >

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>"First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you

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