Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 I can understand why you feel the way you do but remember, alot of time is spent doing the Ashtanga practice and the majority of people have other responsibilities and not much time to hang around and socialize after. If there is one particular lady that you would like to meet then I would suggest arriving a bit early and positioning yourself near her. Possibly ask her if she would like to go for tea or juice one day after class. Or, attend some of the functions that the center runs and it would be a more conducive atmosphere to socialize in. The longer you attend a center the more you will get to know your classmates. I think the greatest gift that I received from my friends from Ashtanga was that no matter what I looked liked before, during or after a practice (and believe me it could get scary) it never mattered to them and therefore, never mattered to me. We do truly get to know the "real" person, without the masks. very liberating and refreshing. Good luck! Margee > > lromanosky [sMTP:lromanosky] > Monday, October 28, 2002 9:55 PM > ashtanga yoga > ashtanga yoga yoga and the sexes.... > > O.K. don't take this the wrong way, but as a young man practicing > yoga I have some questions. I have a serious practice and ashtanga > is an important part of my life. My practice is concentrated and > solitary and focused. Still, one can't help notice some awfully > attractive women in the class--that would be interested to get to > know. My question; how much attention do (young/single) women > want/not want/expect from the men in the class. > > I feel a bit let down that there is not a bit more 'community' with > yoga, and everybody seems in a hurry to run out of the studio. Even > eye contact between the sexes is fleeting. My other male yoga > friends agree, and is a topic we discuss having a drink after class, > and we can't figure it out. > > Strangly, in the local yoga store, with some of the same people, it > is totally different, and people behave normally, have fun, flirt > etc. > > It is usually the case that men are interested in meeting women as > much as women are interested in meeting men, so why is this not the > case in a yoga studio. One theory is that praciticing yoga in a > studio exposes yourself and the self-consciousness, makes breaking > the ice with people difficult. > > > Any comments apprecitated. Sponsor > > > > <http://rd./M=212804.2460941.3878106.2273195/D=egroupweb/S=170506 > 0955:HM/A=810373/R=0/*http://geocities./ps/info?.refer=blrecs> > > <http://rd./M=212804.2460941.3878106.2273195/D=egroupweb/S=170506 > 0955:HM/A=810373/R=1/*http://geocities./ps/info?.refer=blrecs> > > > <http://us.adserver./l?M=212804.2460941.3878106.2273195/D=egroupm > ail/S=:HM/A=810373/rand=730844322> > > > ashtanga yoga > > > > Terms of Service > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2002 Report Share Posted October 29, 2002 Forwarded message below from ru_daft One thing that you might be running into with the women in your class is that, because yoga is known as a 'chick thing' in many places in the US, these women are afraid that the males in the class are only there to hit on women and it makes the women resentful that they are being 'preyed upon' even in their yoga classes. It could also be that many of these women are married, but you haven't seen their rings (because most people don't wear them during practice). You might also take the time of the class into consideration. Is it at a time when people are rushing back to work/school or home to make dinner? Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2002 Report Share Posted October 30, 2002 Thanks Betty, Well that does make sense, it is the vibe that i pick up on...and it is a shame the world has to be that way. There is one lady in my class, 30 years my senior, who is a real pleasure to be around; friendly, casual, enthusiastic about her practice. When you bring your mat into a crowded room, its nice to see somebody you know and like. We always share a few pleasantries before class and after. I guess when you take sexual tension out the equation, people can relate like that. It seems so strange and unnatural to me to see the same people in class a couple times a week for months and never acknowledge them. Like never talking to your neighbors. Especially when you are all sharing something so uplifting as Yoga; to not be able to share it with those around you is an unhappy feeling. Perhaps Yoga *is* solitary, and I miss the point... Or, perhaps Yoga bring brings out emotions and makes people more sensitve... At least the men in my class, are chatty and friendly, so I don't feel isolated. We are now in the habbit of going out for a drink afterward, which I look forward to. Though I'm not sure about beer as a method to re-hydrate yourelf! It's nice to have some people to talk to about Yoga, my non-Yoga friends sort of tolerate my talking about the subject only out of politeness. I tell them to slap me if I say Yoga too much So, sorry if this is long winded or self indulgent, I find the discussion of male/female social behavior interesting, and of course, confusing. But perhaps I can send a message to the girls in Yoga class; the men who are there to 'prey' on women get weeded out in the beginner classes pretty fast-there are easier ways to 'prey' than doing Ashtaga Yoga! The guys who stick with it and develop serious practices are there for the Yoga, and from the sample group I've met, are super people worth getting to know. Cheers, LR. --- betty wrote: > Forwarded message below from ru_daft > > > One thing that you might be running into with the > women in your class is > that, because yoga is known as a 'chick thing' in > many places in the US, > these women are afraid that the males in the class > are only there to hit > on women and it makes the women resentful that they > are being 'preyed > upon' even in their yoga classes. It could also be > that many of these > women are married, but you haven't seen their rings > (because most people > don't wear them during practice). > > You might also take the time of the class into > consideration. Is it at > a time when people are rushing back to work/school > or home to make > dinner? > > Tammy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2002 Report Share Posted October 31, 2002 Lawrence... your not alone... For a long time I've felt the same "don't talk to me" vibe from the attractive yoga-gals in my classes, and I to have noticed they all seem much more comfortable chatting with anyone out of their age range. The twenty something women are always happy to chat with the charismatic 50 year old guys. While conversely the older women and teenage girls are always happy to chat with me about yoga, offering and asking for advice etc... Here are my recommendations: 1)Let go of your desire Seriously, don't go looking for a date. No really... don't go looking for a date. Whether you realize it or not, your probably putting out a "Hi baby what's your sign vibe", and few women are going to be receptive to any approach until you tune it out. You'll be better received if you approach anyone and everyone in a plutonic and friendly manner. 2)Find a friend Women in your class will be much more comfortable talking to you if you are already talking with other women from your class. Start off by approaching the married women. Even if you come of as a little flirtatious, they'll probably be more flattered then offended. On the one hand, it'll show the other women in your class that you are not there just to score a date and that your a "friendly guy", and the other you might even make a friend. 3)Be patient All thing in time... right? Get to know them... then ask them out because you like chatting with them, not because you like their asanas. BTW, a note for the single women yogis out there... my advice, most guys (like myself and probably Lawrence) are over cautious about "respecting" your "space" in the yoga studio / gym. So if your interested, flirt overtly. One last note while I'm on my soap box... This western/American society seems to have had the lesson "Don't talk to strangers" engrained far to strongly in their minds. We're all in this yoga thing together so make some friends. Just say "hi" for Shiva's sake... Namaste, jon ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky <lromanosky> wrote: > Thanks Betty, > > Well that does make sense, it is the vibe that i pick > up on...and it is a shame the world has to be that > way. > > There is one lady in my class, 30 years my senior, who > is a real pleasure to be around; friendly, casual, > enthusiastic about her practice. When you bring your > mat into a crowded room, its nice to see somebody you > know and like. We always share a few pleasantries > before class and after. I guess when you take sexual > tension out the equation, people can relate like that. > > > It seems so strange and unnatural to me to see the > same people in class a couple times a week for months > and never acknowledge them. Like never talking to > your neighbors. Especially when you are all sharing > something so uplifting as Yoga; to not be able to > share it with those around you is an unhappy feeling. > > > Perhaps Yoga *is* solitary, and I miss the point... > > Or, perhaps Yoga bring brings out emotions and makes > people more sensitve... > > At least the men in my class, are chatty and friendly, > so I don't feel isolated. We are now in the habbit of > going out for a drink afterward, which I look forward > to. Though I'm not sure about beer as a method to > re-hydrate yourelf! It's nice to have some people to > talk to about Yoga, my non-Yoga friends sort of > tolerate my talking about the subject only out of > politeness. I tell them to slap me if I say Yoga too > much > > So, sorry if this is long winded or self indulgent, I > find the discussion of male/female social behavior > interesting, and of course, confusing. > > But perhaps I can send a message to the girls in Yoga > class; the men who are there to 'prey' on women get > weeded out in the beginner classes pretty fast-there > are easier ways to 'prey' than doing Ashtaga Yoga! > The guys who stick with it and develop serious > practices are there for the Yoga, and from the sample > group I've met, are super people worth getting to > know. > > Cheers, LR. > > > > --- betty@a... wrote: > > Forwarded message below from ru_daft > > > > > > One thing that you might be running into with the > > women in your class is > > that, because yoga is known as a 'chick thing' in > > many places in the US, > > these women are afraid that the males in the class > > are only there to hit > > on women and it makes the women resentful that they > > are being 'preyed > > upon' even in their yoga classes. It could also be > > that many of these > > women are married, but you haven't seen their rings > > (because most people > > don't wear them during practice). > > > > You might also take the time of the class into > > consideration. Is it at > > a time when people are rushing back to work/school > > or home to make > > dinner? > > > > Tammy > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2002 Report Share Posted November 1, 2002 Speaking as a more "mature woman of 47" (ouch), I have to tell you that I get a kick out watching the sexes "observe" each other during and before classes. I can tell you honestly, that I have met the most wonderful younger men (20's-early 30's) in my classes who were mad about their practices and were just so real and genuine and not looking to pickup at that time. It was through those times of just hanging before class or a bit after that we all came to know each other and I came to realize how wonderful they are and how if I wasn't married or 20 years younger, I would be honored to date any one of them. Time is your greatest ally and when you relax and let your light shine, people can't help but want to be around you and with you. don't feel bad though, my daughter is 25 and beautiful and she complains of the same thing, only from the female perspective! Margee > > jbrrr510 [sMTP:jbrrr510] > Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:34 PM > ashtanga yoga > Re: ashtanga yoga yoga and the sexes.... > > Lawrence... your not alone... > > For a long time I've felt the same "don't talk to me" vibe from the > attractive yoga-gals in my classes, and I to have noticed they all > seem much more comfortable chatting with anyone out of their age > range. The twenty something women are always happy to chat with the > charismatic 50 year old guys. While conversely the older women and > teenage girls are always happy to chat with me about yoga, offering > and asking for advice etc... > > Here are my recommendations: > 1)Let go of your desire > Seriously, don't go looking for a date. No really... don't go > looking for a date. Whether you realize it or not, your probably > putting out a "Hi baby what's your sign vibe", and few women are > going to be receptive to any approach until you tune it out. You'll > be better received if you approach anyone and everyone in a plutonic > and friendly manner. > 2)Find a friend > Women in your class will be much more comfortable talking to you if > you are already talking with other women from your class. Start off > by approaching the married women. Even if you come of as a little > flirtatious, they'll probably be more flattered then offended. On > the one hand, it'll show the other women in your class that you are > not there just to score a date and that your a "friendly guy", and > the other you might even make a friend. > 3)Be patient > All thing in time... right? Get to know them... then ask them out > because you like chatting with them, not because you like their > asanas. > > BTW, a note for the single women yogis out there... my advice, most > guys (like myself and probably Lawrence) are over cautious > about "respecting" your "space" in the yoga studio / gym. So if your > interested, flirt overtly. > > One last note while I'm on my soap box... This western/American > society seems to have had the lesson "Don't talk to strangers" > engrained far to strongly in their minds. We're all in this yoga > thing together so make some friends. Just say "hi" for Shiva's > sake... > > Namaste, > jon > > ashtangayoga, lawrence romanosky <lromanosky> wrote: > > Thanks Betty, > > > > Well that does make sense, it is the vibe that i pick > > up on...and it is a shame the world has to be that > > way. > > > > There is one lady in my class, 30 years my senior, who > > is a real pleasure to be around; friendly, casual, > > enthusiastic about her practice. When you bring your > > mat into a crowded room, its nice to see somebody you > > know and like. We always share a few pleasantries > > before class and after. I guess when you take sexual > > tension out the equation, people can relate like that. > > > > > > It seems so strange and unnatural to me to see the > > same people in class a couple times a week for months > > and never acknowledge them. Like never talking to > > your neighbors. Especially when you are all sharing > > something so uplifting as Yoga; to not be able to > > share it with those around you is an unhappy feeling. > > > > > > Perhaps Yoga *is* solitary, and I miss the point... > > > > Or, perhaps Yoga bring brings out emotions and makes > > people more sensitve... > > > > At least the men in my class, are chatty and friendly, > > so I don't feel isolated. We are now in the habbit of > > going out for a drink afterward, which I look forward > > to. Though I'm not sure about beer as a method to > > re-hydrate yourelf! It's nice to have some people to > > talk to about Yoga, my non-Yoga friends sort of > > tolerate my talking about the subject only out of > > politeness. I tell them to slap me if I say Yoga too > > much > > > > So, sorry if this is long winded or self indulgent, I > > find the discussion of male/female social behavior > > interesting, and of course, confusing. > > > > But perhaps I can send a message to the girls in Yoga > > class; the men who are there to 'prey' on women get > > weeded out in the beginner classes pretty fast-there > > are easier ways to 'prey' than doing Ashtaga Yoga! > > The guys who stick with it and develop serious > > practices are there for the Yoga, and from the sample > > group I've met, are super people worth getting to > > know. > > > > Cheers, LR. > > > > > > > > --- betty@a... wrote: > > > Forwarded message below from ru_daft > > > > > > > > > One thing that you might be running into with the > > > women in your class is > > > that, because yoga is known as a 'chick thing' in > > > many places in the US, > > > these women are afraid that the males in the class > > > are only there to hit > > > on women and it makes the women resentful that they > > > are being 'preyed > > > upon' even in their yoga classes. It could also be > > > that many of these > > > women are married, but you haven't seen their rings > > > (because most people > > > don't wear them during practice). > > > > > > You might also take the time of the class into > > > consideration. Is it at > > > a time when people are rushing back to work/school > > > or home to make > > > dinner? > > > > > > Tammy > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > > <http://hotjobs./> > > > > > ashtanga yoga > > > > Terms of Service > <>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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